Buddism and suffering!

[Ether]

@Shanmugam Are you marketing your book?

@Shin You already know im aprt of the non-dual...

 

police

[Saumaya]

3 minutes ago, Shanmugam said:

I studied psychology as a hobby two years before.. But ACT was not mentioned there.. Since I had a background in basic psychology, I was researching online about many things regarding psychology and how it is connected to non-duality. Learning psychology certainly helps to understand the workings of mind even better. Only after studying psychology, I got the idea that science and spirituality can be bridged. That is also the main theme of my book.  I have made sure that the book is culturally neutral and appeals to anyone who is scientifically inclined.. I have also written about a few psychological concepts in my book like how beliefs work, cognitive biases, defense mechanisms etc..

I have already bought the book, it hasnt shipped yet. Can u recommend some other books and textbooks?

Edited February 26, 2018 by Saumaya

[Shanmugam]

Just now, Ether said:

@Shanmugam Are you marketing your book?

@Shin You already know im aprt of the non-dual...

 

police

Whenever a topic that I have discussed in my book comes up in this forum, I just mention that. 

[Saumaya]

6 minutes ago, Ether said:

Im already studying lol. Its pretty much all theory, no facts.

 

4 minutes ago, Shin said:

Still beats working at the factory I guess.

@saufiansaufian

@Saumaya Yes.

lol psych brothers

[Shin]

@EtherEther 

«If you can't fuck people souls

Fuck their minds»

-Eckhart Tolle

[Ether]

@Saumaya Eh, not really my interest. I really love awakening stuff doe

@Shin And we have no control over others, only us

[MarkusSweden]

@Shanmugam Great initiative to write a book I must say. Hope it can reach out to "normies" that otherwise never come it to contact with spiritual literature. 

This is life changing stuff if people are open to it. 

So it's a quite important work you've done there.

Hope many people will write many books in future that will address the human masses and get them to meet life on a deeper level then what they are used to in their everyday life. 

[Shanmugam]

1 minute ago, Saumaya said:

I have already bought the book, it hasnt shipped yet. Can u recommend some other books and textbooks?

Regarding psychology?

There is a book 'Act made simple' which is specific to ACT...

For Psychology in general, I studied 'Psychology 2nd edition' by Robert A Baron and Girishwar Mishra

 

[Shanmugam]

1 minute ago, MarkusSweden said:

@Shanmugam Great initiative to write a book I must say. Hope it can reach out to "normies" that otherwise never come it to contact with spiritual literature. 

This is life changing stuff if people are open to it. 

So it's a quite important work you've done there.

Hope many people will write many books in future that will address the human masses and get them to meet life on a deeper level then what they are used to in their everyday life. 

Thank you.. :) Since I have a blog, people find about my book in my blog. Currently, my blog gets about 250 page views a day and on average, 5 people a day visit the Amazon page for my book. About 15 people in a month buy my book, based on the results in Dec, Jan, and Feb...

[Ether]

@Shanmugam Dont "ego" it

[Saumaya]

9 minutes ago, Shanmugam said:

Regarding psychology?

There is a book 'Act made simple' which is specific to ACT...

For Psychology in general, I studied 'Psychology 2nd edition' by Robert A Baron and Girishwar Mishra

 

thx, what about philosophy and spirituality? what books do you recommend other than Osho?

[Shanmugam]

Just now, Ether said:

@Shanmugam Dont "ego" it

Thats your projection buddy!  .. The biggest projection of all is projecting duality into non-duality... I was actually thinking about opening a thread regarding this...

I am a very intelligent guy - Do you think I am boasting? I am simply telling you the truth.  

I suck at outdoor sports - do you think I lack self-confidence? Confidence is a non-existent thing in nondual reality and it is not needed. I am simply telling you the truth.  

This doesn't mean I don't have ego, I have.. But it is only used for practical purposes in social interactions..  

[Ether]

@Shanmugam Well, thats the ego but...im tired of diiscussing lol

[Saumaya]

Just now, Ether said:

@Shanmugam Well, thats the ego but...im tired of diiscussing lol

You have a very naive idea of what ego is man

[Shanmugam]

6 minutes ago, Saumaya said:

thx, what about philosophy and spirituality? what books do you recommend other than Osho?

Be As You Are: The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi 
The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi in His Own Words - Arthur Osborne
I Am That - by Nisargadatta Maharaj
Freedom from the Known - Jiddu Krishnamurti 
The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment - Eckhart Tolle

For Kriya Yoga I recommend 'Kriya Yoga Exposed' by Santata Gamana

[Shanmugam]

@Ether

I am posting what I wrote in another thread:

Ego is a tricky word and it has been used to convey about 3-4 different things... And there has been a confusion because of translations...

1. There is a word called 'Ahamkar'. This word has been used in Yoga, Vedanta and Samkhya. And this 'ahamkar' actually disappears completely after enlightenment. But this word is usually translated as ego in English. Let us look at the actual meaning of the word Ahamkar. Its a compound word consisting of 'Aham' which means 'I' and 'kara' which means 'to do'. The compound word indicates the idea 'I am the doer'.. This idea can only exist in separation or duality. After enlightenment, you can't even find a slight scent of Ahamkara, because duality completely disappears.

2. There is also something called 'Aham vritti'... This is also translated as ego in English. But 'Aham vritti' is actually the self-concept, which too is destroyed completely after enlightenment. It is the story of 'you' that you carry in your head. This story completely loses its focus, importance, significance and power after enlightenment. You only access the self-concept that you have in memory. But there is no active, consistent, solid self-concept which spans from past to future.

3. There is a function in the mind which helps you with social interactions. Its is also referred to as ego. I use the word 'ego' to refer to this. This function is totally necessary for social interactions. It is this function which strives to protect and enhance the self-concept. So by its very nature, ego is defensive. But after enlightenment, self-concept disappears while ego as a function persists. This is why you can notice some kind of defensiveness even in enlightened people. But they defend the truth, instead of defending a self-concept.

4. Freud used the word 'ego' in a totally different way. If you look up his theory about ego, super-ego and id, you will understand what he is saying in his theory.

Note:  This is very important. If you find one teacher saying something about ego which another teacher seem to contradict, then always remember that they are probably using the word 'ego' to mean different things. The above is the quick checklist that you can refer. I have an entire chapter in my book called 'Problem with words' where I discuss certain confusions that tend to happen because of using one word to mean multiple things or using multiple words to mean a single thing. Makes sense? So, when you listen to a spiritual teacher, it is very important to inquire what meaning he is actually giving to a particular word by checking the context.

[Saumaya]

5 minutes ago, Shanmugam said:

Be As You Are: The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi 
The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi in His Own Words - Arthur Osborne
I Am That - by Nisargadatta Maharaj
Freedom from the Known - Jiddu Krishnamurti 
The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment - Eckhart Tolle

For Kriya Yoga I recommend 'Kriya Yoga Exposed' by Santata Gamana

Goddamit I have already read every book on that list

[Shin]

1 minute ago, Shanmugam said:

@Ether

I am posting what I wrote in another thread:

Ego is a tricky word and it has been used to convey about 3-4 different things... And there has been a confusion because of translations...

1. There is a word called 'Ahamkar'. This word has been used in Yoga, Vedanta and Samkhya. And this 'ahamkar' actually disappears completely after enlightenment. But this word is usually translated as ego in English. Let us look at the actual meaning of the word Ahamkar. Its a compound word consisting of 'Aham' which means 'I' and 'kara' which means 'to do'. The compound word indicates the idea 'I am the doer'.. This idea can only exist in separation or duality. After enlightenment, you can't even find a slight scent of Ahamkara, because duality completely disappears.

2. There is also something called 'Aham vritti'... This is also translated as ego in English. But 'Aham vritti' is actually the self-concept, which too is destroyed completely after enlightenment. It is the story of 'you' that you carry in your head. This story completely loses its focus, importance, significance and power after enlightenment. You only access the self-concept that you have in memory. But there is no active, consistent, solid self-concept which spans from past to future.

3. There is a function in the mind which helps you with social interactions. Its is also referred to as ego. I use the word 'ego' to refer to this. This function is totally necessary for social interactions. It is this function which strives to protect and enhance the self-concept. So by its very nature, ego is defensive. But after enlightenment, self-concept disappears while ego as a function persists. This is why you can notice some kind of defensiveness even in enlightened people. But they defend the truth, instead of defending a self-concept.

4. Freud used the word 'ego' in a totally different way. If you look up his theory about ego, super-ego and id, you will understand what he is saying in his theory.

Note:  This is very important. If you find one teacher saying something about ego which another teacher seem to contradict, then always remember that they are probably using the word 'ego' to mean different things. The above is the quick checklist that you can refer. I have an entire chapter in my book called 'Problem with words' where I discuss certain confusions that tend to happen because of using one word to mean multiple things or using multiple words to mean a single thing. Makes sense? So, when you listen to a spiritual teacher, it is very important to inquire what meaning he is actually giving to a particular word by checking the context.

Do you explain this in your book ?

[Ether]

@Shanmugam @Saumaya ok, im not discussing anymore. im just chilling

[Saumaya]

2 minutes ago, Shanmugam said:

@Ether

I am posting what I wrote in another thread:

Ego is a tricky word and it has been used to convey about 3-4 different things... And there has been a confusion because of translations...

1. There is a word called 'Ahamkar'. This word has been used in Yoga, Vedanta and Samkhya. And this 'ahamkar' actually disappears completely after enlightenment. But this word is usually translated as ego in English. Let us look at the actual meaning of the word Ahamkar. Its a compound word consisting of 'Aham' which means 'I' and 'kara' which means 'to do'. The compound word indicates the idea 'I am the doer'.. This idea can only exist in separation or duality. After enlightenment, you can't even find a slight scent of Ahamkara, because duality completely disappears.

2. There is also something called 'Aham vritti'... This is also translated as ego in English. But 'Aham vritti' is actually the self-concept, which too is destroyed completely after enlightenment. It is the story of 'you' that you carry in your head. This story completely loses its focus, importance, significance and power after enlightenment. You only access the self-concept that you have in memory. But there is no active, consistent, solid self-concept which spans from past to future.

3. There is a function in the mind which helps you with social interactions. Its is also referred to as ego. I use the word 'ego' to refer to this. This function is totally necessary for social interactions. It is this function which strives to protect and enhance the self-concept. So by its very nature, ego is defensive. But after enlightenment, self-concept disappears while ego as a function persists. This is why you can notice some kind of defensiveness even in enlightened people. But they defend the truth, instead of defending a self-concept.

4. Freud used the word 'ego' in a totally different way. If you look up his theory about ego, super-ego and id, you will understand what he is saying in his theory.

Note:  This is very important. If you find one teacher saying something about ego which another teacher seem to contradict, then always remember that they are probably using the word 'ego' to mean different things. The above is the quick checklist that you can refer. I have an entire chapter in my book called 'Problem with words' where I discuss certain confusions that tend to happen because of using one word to mean multiple things or using multiple words to mean a single thing. Makes sense? So, when you listen to a spiritual teacher, it is very important to inquire what meaning he is actually giving to a particular word by checking the context.

good stuff

cheers