Sungazing & Moongazing for Spiritual Growth

[Charlotte]

4 hours ago, Faceless said:

As the mind becomes more quiet the intervals just seem to last longer. Just pay attention /observe thoughts. Let them pass and so on. The compulsive chatter or inner dialog just becomes less noticeable until it’s not even there anymore. 

Yeah walking slow or ridking my bike with my son who is attatched to the back is a real joy. I totaly get outside the self. Pure headlesness. He use to as well from 1year to around 16 months. But now he’s 2 and has become more self aware?

My girlfriend hates the headlessness. I can just stare off and totally be in a daze for 10 to 20 min some times. This just started happening about a year ago. Since then I have been inquiring into what has happened and how to share it....She thinks it’s very strange. ??‍♂️But it’s a joy

But we have a family and I do have to keep one foot in reality if you know what I mean. 

I'm starting to slowly fully detach from my thoughts instead of becoming pulled in and caught up with them, I used to fight them back, but that was just creating more resistance.

 

May I ask how you taught your son to be more self aware?

Maybe your partner hasn't fully grasped the "headlesness" yet? It's so peaceful! So still! How could one possibly not grow to love it there? Maybe she hasn't fully experienced it yet, it's hard to explain it to someone, I have trouble explaining to my other half, when I do, he looks at me like I have 2 heads ?

[Faceless]

1 minute ago, Charlotte said:

May I ask how you taught your son to be more self aware?

What I mean by he became self aware is around the age of 16 months and up a baby will start to develop the me, mine, duality, fragmented state of awareness. The self centered awareness. U know the me who is seperate from you awareness ? This awareness becomes more established through the starting to identify with various memory’s. 

This is the very thing u are starting to be rid of. U understand.??

so self awareness would imply awarness of everything and the self as separate. Where awarness of self awareness would be the start of liberation from the self.

make sense friend? 

[Faceless]

@Charlotte

i have witnessed this process in my son and it was very interesting. But rather heartbreaking to. Before he was always headless. 

I will do my best to make sure this is a possibly in his life of course.?

Edited February 23, 2018 by Faceless

[Faceless]

13 minutes ago, Charlotte said:

Maybe your partner hasn't fully grasped the "headlesness" yet? It's so peaceful! So still! How could one possibly not grow to love it there? Maybe she hasn't fully experienced it yet, it's hard to explain it to someone, I have trouble explaining to my other half, when I do, he looks at me like I have 2 heads ?

No she hasn’t grasped any of this. But I think my action in daily life is expressing some interest in her. 

Two heads Lolol ?

                              ??

Edited February 23, 2018 by Faceless

[Charlotte]

9 minutes ago, Faceless said:

What I mean by he became self aware is around the age of 16 months and up a baby will start to develop the me, mine, duality, fragmented state of awareness. The self centered awareness. U know the me who is seperate from you awareness ? This awareness becomes more established through the starting to identify with various memory’s. 

This is the very thing u are starting to be rid of. U understand.??

so self awareness would imply awarness of everything and the self as separate. Where awarness of self awareness would be the start of liberation from the self.

make sense friend? 

Yes I understand : ) I thought you meant you had been teaching him 'awareness' I was like ? "Please tell me how you've done that at such a young age" ?

 

7 minutes ago, Faceless said:

i have witnessed this process in my son and it was very interesting. But rather heartbreaking to. Before he was always headless. 

I can totally relate to what your saying! I have a niece I've watched grow and develop and your right, it is heartbreaking. I watch her slowly being brainwashed by society already ? but at the same time what else would she have? 

7 minutes ago, Faceless said:

No she hasn’t grasped any of this. But I think my action in daily life is expressing some interest to her. 

Two heads Lolol ?

                              ??

Good good, I'm literally trying to do the same with my partner but he isn't taking the bait ?.

Two heads 

[Faceless]

4 minutes ago, Charlotte said:

Good good, I'm literally trying to do the same with my partner but he isn't taking the bait ?.

You would think otherwise but in such relationships will tend to resist this. Because they rely on certain images that they have created about you to fulfil there own personal needs. Sounds bad and it is. But from our point of view we understand why this is happening and that they are in a way suffering form personal fears, sorrows, and so on. 

This is where our self awarnesss capacity to to see and understand what are going through in suffering and show comapssion and love. 

[Charlotte]

@Faceless @Faceless sorry tagged twice but yes, totally agree! I now see it as some form of entrapment and I'm offering him a hand to free him from his suffering and he isn't grasping, it's a shame but I understand. People have to find there own way there. 

6 minutes ago, Faceless said:

show comapssion and love

Definitely! This, I'm not short of ?

[Faceless]

2 minutes ago, Charlotte said:

@Faceless @Faceless sorry tagged twice but yes, totally agree! I now see it as some form of entrapment and I'm offering him a hand to free him from his suffering and he isn't grasping, it's a shame but I understand. People have to find there own way there. 

Definitely! This, I'm not short of ?

??

[Vinnie]

@Slade 

Sorry dude, it's still there. You get out what you put in...

[pluto]

Try it and see what happens