A Buddha will always be misunderstood

[TheEnlightenedWon]

1 minute ago, Ether said:

nah, im just tryna be myself. Live trying emulating others, you will always be in their shadow

I'm emulating myself so well rn I swear I must be enlightened #woke

[Deep]

2 hours ago, Shanmugam said:

@Deep Ok good ... remember me and send me a message after 15 years and tell me what you think about enlightenment.

No thanks! I can't stay here for that long. Much love! 

1 hour ago, Saumaya said:

@Deep There are no different kinds of enlightenment , there is only one kind. Paths may be different but enlightenment is only of one kind. Your opinion in this doesnt matter. Your definition of enlightenment doesnt matter. I might start calling taking a dump enlightenment. I dont care what anyone says, when you dont any more questions left and seeking is over, thats the accepted definition of enlightenment and true enlightenment. Your reading the so called effects of enlightenment. 

I agree that there aren't different definitions of enlightenment. It seems like you feel threatened by what I'm presenting. You should be okay with what I present as long as it's within the forum guidelines. Are you saying controlling the mind comes after enlightenment? How can seeking end if the mind is still present? 

1 hour ago, Saumaya said:

Im talking about this from experience, not by  mentally mastrubating about what other people have said. 

And yes, @Shanmugam knows more than you. Your unwillingness to listen shows your ignorance.

I respect Shanmugam, but everyone on this forum is a bullshitter (including me). We all have a long way to go. 

 

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

...and how would you know if this is true?

By meeting them. 

1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This sounds Egoic to me.  There is no you controlling anything.

Everything sounds egoic to you. 

[Ether]

3 minutes ago, TheEnlightenedWon said:

I'm emulating myself so well rn I swear I must be enlightened #woke

haha, if you emulating the practices and mindset thats ok, but you got to see the truth for yourself

[TheEnlightenedWon]

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It seems like you feel threatened by what I'm presenting.

^ Projection

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You should be okay with what I present

^ Judgement

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"everyone on this forum is a bullshitter"... "We all have a long way to go."... "Everything sounds egoic to you. "

^ Generalization

#ThatsDeep

[Saumaya]

@Deep There he is! Too Deep

[Saumaya]

@Deep This might sound like a paradox. You should already have control over the mind, but the you who thinks has control doesnt exist. i dont know if this will help.

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Saumaya said:

@Deep This might sound like a paradox. You should already have control over the mind, but the you who thinks has control doesnt exist. i dont know if this will help.

There is no you controlling the Mind.  There’s no you, there’s no controlling, and there is no mind.

Edited February 22, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Saumaya]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

There is no you controlling the Mind.

I just said that

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Saumaya said:

I just said that

The idea that you are influencing the dream is Ego

[Shin]

But who control the no you that doesn't control the mind ?

Didn't thought about that don't you ?

*thinking*

Edited February 22, 2018 by Shin

[TheEnlightenedWon]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

The idea that you are influencing the dream is Ego

What is universal will?
Is it possible that the influencer and the influenced are one and the same?

Nahh... That's jus crazy talk

*Goes back to a life free of paradox*

[Saumaya]

6 minutes ago, Shin said:

But who control the no you that doesn't control the mind ?

Didn't thought about that don't you ?

*thinking*

^

[Nahm]

@Saumaya Right. 

[Joseph Maynor]

43 minutes ago, TheEnlightenedWon said:

What is universal will?
Is it possible that the influencer and the influenced are one and the same?

Nahh... That's jus crazy talk

*Goes back to a life free of paradox*

No.  That’s all clinging to beliefs about reality.  

[TheEnlightenedWon]

6 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

No.  That’s all clinging to beliefs about reality.  

Nah, they're just concepts. And unless you're already enlightened, you still need 'em. Are you?

[Key Elements]

18 hours ago, Deep said:

Brahman. 

When you mentioned the God of all creations, this reminds me of the Brahma Kamal Flower. What an insightful flower for deep ah-ha moments. 

Don't forget that the maya counts as non-duality because duality also is part of non-duality. Life is a school. It gives us indications that catches our attention. It may not make any sense now, but may later. Just try your best.

[pluto]

Indeed he will but it does not matter

Edited February 22, 2018 by pluto

[Key Elements]

Yes, and just keep going. Keep trying. Once in a while, stop to smell the roses.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 hours ago, Shin said:

But who control the no you that doesn't control the mind ?

Didn't thought about that don't you ?

*thinking*

There's no control.  Control, doing, and knowing are beliefs about reality, not reality as it is.

[Deep]

On 2/22/2018 at 2:40 PM, Key Elements said:

Don't forget that the maya counts as non-duality because duality also is part of non-duality. Life is a school. It gives us indications that catches our attention. It may not make any sense now, but may later. Just try your best.

I have a lot of interests besides enlightenment. I engage in "low consciousness" activities sometimes. Nothing else is in the world is worth pursuing. Once the mind rises above the material plane, it's very hard to bring it back down.