From now on we drop the word "God"

[MarkusSweden]

God is a noun! 

If we are attached to the word God, we should use the word Godliness from now on. 

Don't make it a noun, make it a quality! 

The moment you make it a noun, you kill it. 

The moment you make it a noun, you stop its growth! 

Nouns don't grow! Only verbs grow! 

As you know, creation has no creator, creation itself is the creator. 

As such creation inhabits Godliness but not God(noun) 

-Wisdom from Osho  

Edited February 21, 2018 by MarkusSweden

[Leo Gura]

@MarkusSweden Start by having a direct experience of what "God" points to.

[Shin]

Mental masturbation.

[MarkusSweden]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

@MarkusSweden Start by having a direct experience of what "God" points to.

Good idea! 

I like to go for the short cuts! But that constantly back fire I've noticed!  

[MarkusSweden]

2 minutes ago, Shin said:

Mental masturbation.

At least that's better then mental masturbation about real masturbation! lol  

Anything interesting happening in that Nofap-thread btw?

You spend quite some time there!

But who am I to judge, maybe we will solve the mysterious nature of consciousness and absolute truth in the NoFap-thread, keep up the good work!  

[Shin]

24 minutes ago, MarkusSweden said:

 

Just sit and enquire.

Stop bullshitting yourself.

[Vingger]

Quote

 

Osho, Do you believe in you? Do you believe in God? Who is God? No, I don’t believe in me.I cannot, because I am not. There is nobody I to be believed in, and nobody to believe in it either. If you believe in yourself, you believe in an illusion. The very belief will prevent you from knowing the reality. Once you start believing in an illusion, you start losing contact with the real. To know the real, all illusions have to be dropped - and the greatest illusion of all is the ego, the I. You ask me: “Do you believe in you?” No, not at all. That’s why I am able to know. You ask: “Do you believe in God?” No again - because to believe in God is not to know Him. Belief is always out of ignorance. Those who don’t know, they believe. If you know, what is the point of believing in? When you know, you know! You don’t believe in the morning sun. You don’t believe in the trees and in the mountains. You need not! You know the sun is there. You know the people are there, you know the trees are there. There is no question of belief. Why do you believe in God? Because you don’t know. You substitute your knowledge by belief. You hide your ignorance behind the belief. The belief gives you a pretension of knowing. All beliefs are pretentious. All beliefs are deceptions. Whom are you deceiving? You yourself are deceived. When a man says, “I believe in God,” he is saying he has not been able to know God - that’s all he is saying. He is not strong enough to say it that way. He is not strong enough to see his own ignorance and accept it. Hence, he says, “I believe in God!” What is the need of believing in God if you know? Knowledge never becomes belief. Knowledge remains knowledge. Ignorance tries to become belief. Remember always: whenever you believe, it is just to hide your ignorance. It is a cheap knowledge that belief gives. I don’t believe in God - because any relationship of belief is a wrong relationship. I know God.but to know God the only requirement is that I should not be. The moment you disappear, God appears. Only when you are spacious enough to contain Him, when you are no more there occupying inner space - in fact, absence of yourself is the presence of God. Remember: you will never meet God. You cannot, because the meeting will mean you are also real and God is also real - then there will be two realities, not one. And reality is one. If you are, God cannot be. If God is, you cannot be. And the third thing you ask: “Who is god?”

God is not a “who,” He is not a person. God is the totality, the sum total of the whole existence. God is not somebody: God is “allness.” I am God, you are God - everybody is God, all is God. In fact, to use the word God is not right. There is godliness and no God at all. To be really true to reality, godliness is the right word to use, not God. The moment you say “God,” many things arise out of that word.. First: God becomes a person - and God is not a person. God is impersonal existence; God is impersonal “beingness.” Once you say “God,” God becomes a “he” - that is male chauvinistic, that is ugly. God is neither a “he” nor a “she.” And if you decide to use “he” or “she,” then “she” is far better - because “she” includes “he,” but the “he” does not include “she.” “She” is far bigger - naturally so. Man is born out of the woman. The woman can contain the man, the man cannot contain the woman. The man has no womb to contain anything. But both are wrong. God is neither man nor woman, because He is not a person at all. Then what is God? Don’t ask, “Who is God?” Ask “what is God?” Life is God. Love is God. Light is God. It is an existential experience. You never come across God like an object. You come across godliness - like an inner upsurge. Something blooms in you.and you cannot even find the flower, just a fragrance. God is not a flower but a fragrance. I cannot indicate where God is, who God is. I can simply relate my experience of fragrance to you. Existence is full of godliness. Everything is divine - the flowers, the birds, the rocks, the rivers.. Not that you have to create a temple for God and a church for God - that is stupid, because God is everywhere! For whom are you creating the temple and the church and the mosque? If you want to pray, you can pray anywhere. Wherever you bow down you bow down to God, because none else exists. You will have to understand my language. Belief is a dirty word here. And by belief you are prevented from knowing; you are not helped. And it is because of belief that man is divided. It has not helped man’s spiritual growth; it has been one of the greatest barriers. It is belief that divides you as a Christian, a Hindu, a Mohammedan. It is belief that divides the earth. It is belief that creates wars. The moment you believe, you are no more one with humanity: you are a Christian or a Hindu or a Mohammedan. You have gone ugly, you are poisoned! And now you will be continuously fighting for your belief. And all these people fighting for their beliefs are blind people fighting for their belief in light - and nobody knows what light is.

 

 

[MarkusSweden]

@VinggerGreat, thank you! 

[sgn]

@MarkusSweden You sure you aren't @Snick? lol

[MarkusSweden]

2 minutes ago, sgn said:

@MarkusSweden You sure you aren't @Snick? lol

Haha, everyone keeps telling me that! I don't know if that's an insult or a compliment. 

His posts here are deleted, so I can't tell if to be flattered or not.  

Anyway, did you see the quote from @Vingger ? The Osho quote? 

I think it's so great, and so liberating as well. It erase all authority ideas about consciousness/God. All there is, is Godliness, and that happens right now, as I write to you.  

[LIghtWork22]

@MarkusSweden There are no shortcuts on the path to greatness that are of your benefit unfortunately, don't do it to yourself man haha <3

[MarkusSweden]

43 minutes ago, LIghtWork22 said:

@MarkusSweden There are no shortcuts on the path to greatness that are of your benefit unfortunately, don't do it to yourself man haha <3

You're right!  

Love your City btw, One day I will go visit and walk the Bourbon street and feel all the good vibes there. 

Love music and the "south"  

Edited February 21, 2018 by MarkusSweden

[sgn]

4 hours ago, MarkusSweden said:

Haha, everyone keeps telling me that! I don't know if that's an insult or a compliment. 

His posts here are deleted, so I can't tell if to be flattered or not.  

Anyway, did you see the quote from @Vingger ? The Osho quote? 

I think it's so great, and so liberating as well. It erase all authority ideas about consciousness/God. All there is, is Godliness, and that happens right now, as I write to you.  

Yeah I'm sure you would want to know what people say about you SNICK

You're writing style. You use exclamation marks a lot.
The friendliness.
The mental masturbation.
And "both" () from sweden.

No I didn't read the osho quote. Too much text. Maybe later.

[MarkusSweden]

2 minutes ago, sgn said:

And "both" () from sweden.

 

Haha, "both" 

Looks like you have made up your mind!  

 

[sgn]

@MarkusSweden Hahaha