Joseph Maynor

What does it mean to you to practice not knowing?

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@Joseph Maynor Letting go, of everything.

Everything to the point where you start to feel tears arising, not knowing to the point where you intuit that there is billions of things going on, and all is well no matter what. 

Not knowing how things will play out, but knowing that awareness will forever remain as awareness. 

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With perfect knowing their can be no life. Not knowing is a fundamental property of any conscious life. 

Life is per definition equal to NOT knowing. Perfect knowing is equal to death.

You can not learn anything here, you can only Unlearn things in this business. 

The more you don't know, the more rich becomes life. 

The richness, colourfulness, and mysteriousness of life are proportional to how much you DON'T know. 

Embracing life is to practice NOT knowing


Isn't it so, yes or no? 

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To effortlessly try.

To forget to remember and remember to forget.


Bearing with the conditioned in gentleness, fording the river with resolution, not neglecting what is distant, not regarding one's companions; thus one may manage to walk in the middle. H11L2

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Just now, tsuki said:

To forget to remember and remember to forget.

Another great quote from the quote-maschine tsuki! ;) 

Very true


Isn't it so, yes or no? 

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Practice implies a practicer/knower. Any movement by that entity ‘self’ can only practice/know what is known.

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This is the problem with techniques,systems, and chemicals to introduce timelessness.

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6 minutes ago, SOUL said:

I don't know....haha

Lol, :) 


Isn't it so, yes or no? 

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Being open to the possibility that you can act without thinking.

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 A disciple went to his master and asked "Master I'm curious, how do I practice Not knowing?" After a long time without the master saying a word the disciple finally asked again "Master, are you not going to tell me how I can practice not knowing?" The master replied, "I just did. Only your curiosity of wanting to know stopped you from seeing that" . 

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@Joseph Maynor This hits like a ton of bricks when you realize there is only you. So anything you could “know”, is you. It’s a very, very, very, funny realization. In the illusion, there’s always more to learn, and more distinctions to be made, more understanding to be experienced, but this is very different than knowing. Thank you for this post. I’m laughing so hard right now.  

There are practices of detaching from thought, but I don’t think there’s a practice of not knowing.OMG that’s so funny.


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Talking about not know, I think it's one of the most useful things to know on the path, an underrated concept, because it can kind of disillusion the ego mind out of it's arrogance and it's like a gateway to the absolute that state of: 'oohhhhhh [I... 'don't know what this is! what the fkkk, omg! awesome!]', it helps with surrendering. 

Ye, that statement of Peter Ralston, regarding the question: 'what's the closest state of enlightenment the mind can have' (or something), and he said: 'true not knowing', that really helped, and I think it's important to burn into people's heads that start: ponder the fact that you really don't know anything! Really grasp that, because we've been used to this lie for so long thinking that we know anything.

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 knowing is the result of memory, knowledge, experience, ‘thought’. 

Knowing implies thought/time/the self.

Do we see the dilemma here? 

Only way there is no knowing is when the knower ceases all together. So when there is a movment of volition/a practicer how can knowing end?? 

 

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