Opiate Withdrawl and Depersonalisation.

[MisterMan]

Currently tapering off .8 mg of subutex for the last two weeks and every night without fail the withdrawl symptoms start up. 

I have been reading up on what to expect and depersonalisation has come up as a negative side effect of opiate withdrawl. Which confuses me quite a bit since to me anyway seems smack bang on what bhuddism is all about. Detaching from thought and desire through objective observation.

I have had some very eye opening experiences in the last month which would certainly relate to "depersonalising", or "nothingness" . I

Depersonalisation is classified as a mental ilness but i cannot distinguish the difference between what bhuddism teaches or what this "illness" is.

my first reaction is to reject this as a misunderstanding of what i want to believe to be a fundamental truth about reality, I think "depersonalising" can have many benefits as to help liberate yourself from your pre made self conceptions of yourself and the world.  but it's seen as an ilness,

This seems absolutely absurd to me. 

Can anyone help clarify this?

Edited February 19, 2018 by MisterMan

[MM1988]

It is an illness in the sense that you cant properly function in society when you are depresonalized permanently.

 

[MisterMan]

Isn't enlightenment just that? Silencing the voice in your head? No longer indentifying with it? How could you consider this to be an illness?

[Leo Gura]

The devil flips everything upside-down, inside-out.

Bad is called good.

Falsehood is called truth.

Insanity is called sanity.

Dysfunction is called success.

And illness is called health.

The labels society creates are designed to perpetuate ego. So of course society will tend to hold spiritual purification as "evil". That's why psychedelics are demonized, for example.

Buddhism is too radical for a materialist culture to accept. It's only accepted as "another religion".

But with all that said, there is still a difference between depersonalization and enlightenment. Depersonalization is incomplete, half-baked. The Infinite Self isn't realized. God is not realized. Love is not realized. The mind is not fully jailbroken.

[Arman]

There are lots of lower states of consciousness that imitate and are often mistaken for higher ones. Your depersonalization is not necessarily a mystical state, just as the thoughtless and serene stupor of an opiate high is not enlightenment. 

[Joel3102]

Depersonalisation ain't enlightenment at all. It's a dissociative mechanism humans evolved to numb ourselves during periods of intense anxiety. It's quite a disturbing symptom and I struggled with it a lot, but it goes away when you stop ruminating about it.

[MisterMan]

https://enlightenmentward.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/depersonalization-vs-enlightenment/

 

@Joel3102 This bloke seems to disagree with you. Same thing?

[Forestluv]

@MisterMan My impression is that depersonalization is generally used as a protective mechanism during and after traumatic events