Recently i have a problem in my meditation can you please help me ?

[John Iverson]

I will illustrate what is happening to me, I can't say direct words or terms to this one, i will try but please help me on this one... it's been 3 weeks that I'm experiencing this weird happening whenever I'm meditating, at first i thought tomorrow it will not happen again but guise 3 weeks? Wtf is happening ?? i can't  meditate still,so this is what happening to me...

my muscle is not relax.. I don't know if muscle is the problem.. but my body is not relax.. hmm? Imagine my muscle flex without my command? You get it? I don't know how to explain it.. hmm? The other explanation i can make is, my muscle goes hard until it shaken because it is involuntarily, you get my point? Or if I'm meditating on a chair because the muscle doing things that is not my control it ,it act of swinging one or both legs freely to and fro in the air while i'm seated (such as on a tall bench or swing) or lying on a hammock

it is fuckin weird.. i know meditating is make you sit and still.. 3weeks and it affects my time of meditation, now my meditation is only 15 minutes.. before i can meditate 50 minutes... no destruction, just do nothing.. I don't have a timer, i dont used to...now i feel this.. all of my body is shaking.. wtf.. i try to sit and observe.. and it gives me cramps wtf dayum!!

Edited February 18, 2018 by John Iverson

[John Iverson]

I'm moving,. Where is meditation there ? Sometime my eyes will open without my control what the fck!!  Imagine you are meditating.. and your eyes will open HAHAHAHAHA!! is like i sit and my body walk? What the fuck!! What is happening... !! Yes it is true i'm meditating and my eyes opened... my vains is also flexing,... in one sitting all of my body become tension... is it okay to loose myself while meditating? Or should i tolerate this? And tolerate 15 minutes a day meditation.. I can't grow.. with this wtf  15 minutes??? Really!!! 

[tsuki]

You are getting caught up in your thoughts. As long as you think that you are supposed to control your body, you will freak out. Let the body be, even if it was to do that forever. The end will come. The body will end by itself at one point.

[John Iverson]

2 minutes ago, tsuki said:

You are getting caught up in your thoughts. As long as you think that you are supposed to control your body, you will freak out. Let the body be, even if it was to do that forever. The end will come. The body will end by itself at one point.

Now i'm freaking out because I can't do the 50 minutes meditation , it feels like it backslide my growth... tsk! 

[Vingger]

It's you really haha,

body is always present mind is not,

go with the body movement,

don't create distance

[tsuki]

4 minutes ago, John Iverson said:

Now i'm freaking out because I can't do the 50 minutes meditation , it feels like it backslide my growth... tsk! 

The growth is not a straight line up. It's a path. Let it be, even if it meant giving up meditation forever.

[nightrider1435]

Just let it be, it's fine. 

[Psyche_92]

Which meditation technique are you using? It sounds like you might benefit from learning the "do nothing" technique.

 

[John Iverson]

17 minutes ago, Psyche_92 said:

Which meditation technique are you using? It sounds like you might benefit from learning the "do nothing" technique.

 

Do nothing technique is the one I'm using, that is why what is happening to me while i'm meditating is contradicting...  my body moves in a weird manner.. ?

Edited February 18, 2018 by John Iverson

[nightrider1435]

@John Iverson Try "do nothing" with your eyes open. Just sit down, relax,observe, and do not try to be in control. If your body starts doing random movements just allow it to happen.

[cetus]

@John Iverson I have RLS (restless leg syndrome). It started in my mid 20's. As I got older it expanded into the arms too. It only happens when the body gets really relaxed. If I get a flair up I postpone meditation until it subsides.

Does that ever happen to you any other time or just in meditation?

[John Iverson]

11 hours ago, cetus56 said:

@John Iverson I have RLS (restless leg syndrome). It started in my mid 20's. As I got older it expanded into the arms too. It only happens when the body gets really relaxed. If I get a flair up I postpone meditation until it subsides.

Does that ever happen to you any other time or just in meditation?

Just only when i'm  meditating sir  

[Prabhaker]

On 2/18/2018 at 8:23 PM, John Iverson said:

...now i feel this.. all of my body is shaking.. wtf..

You can sit very easily when you are doing something else but the moment you are just sitting and doing nothing, it becomes a problem. Every fiber of the body begins to move inside; every vein, every muscle, begins to move. You will begin to feel a subtle trembling; you will be aware of many points in the body of which you have never been aware before. And the more you try to just sit, the more movement you will feel inside you. So sitting can be used only if you have done other things first.

You can just walk, that is easier. You can just dance, that is even easier. And after you have been doing other things that are easier, then you can sit. Sitting in a buddha posture is the last thing to do really; it should never be done in the beginning. Only after you have begun to feel identified totally with movement can you begin to feel totally identified with nonmovement.

So I never tell people to begin with just sitting. Begin from where beginning is easy, otherwise you will begin to feel many things unnecessarily ¯ things that are not there. 
If you begin with sitting, you will feel much disturbance inside. The more you try to just sit, the more disturbance will be felt; you will become aware only of your insane mind and nothing else. It will create depression, you will feel frustrated. You will not feel blissful; rather, you will begin to feel that you are insane. And sometimes you may really go insane.

Osho, Meditation: The Art of Ecstasy , Talk #5

http://www.osho.com/meditate/meditation-tool-kit/questions-about-meditation/is-it-good-to-start-with-a-sitting-meditation-or-an-active-meditation