Tip: You were born with specific LP

[Monkey-man]

I just wanted to share this tip, which was revealed for me on the 'spiritual path', for people who are struggling with their LP and for everyone really.

For me now its more obvious than ever what is hero's journey really, what is higher calling, why life is about sacrifice, and love, and why people are so hungry for meaning and high purpose in life.

Basically, everyone was born with specific task/mission/purpose in life. You seek purpose and higher meanings because God makes you to seek it.

All of your given talents, inclinations, main interests and FEARS, especially those that come from childhood - all that were given to you not by mere accident, but by purpose. Your specific mission is dependent on having tools such as your talents and deepest interests, and it has to do with your specific fears which will direct you on the path.

You need to find your LP within your soul/higher-self/your inner teacher, its already there inside of you, just calm down all of your thoughts and desires (ALL OF THE DESIRES) to be able to see it. And when you will experience higher calling which will come from your soul, you will eventually start to see how your whole life and your personality and all the dots connect with each other. It won't be rationalizing but intuitive understanding.

This calling isn't some desire to create nice life, it actually doesn't feel like desire or even like typical life goal. Its coming from your heart, so it doesn't have flavor of desire, but it has flavor of huge sense of commitment, as if you are being pushed to do it, and deep need to sacrifice yourself for this mission. Yes, you were born to sacrifice your life to work towards this purpose. Thats your redemption of having gift of life. Literally, after your doubting mind will calm down you will feel more and more that you are ready, in some sense, to give out your physical life, your own ambitions, all the time you have left with, just for this mission. And this purpose has nothing to do with fulfilling your own ambitions and reputation. Moreover, its likely that you won't receive any praise, goodies related with your self-image and understanding of other people. Rewards will still drive you and hopes for the better future too, but they will be secondary coz your main reward is immediate, it'll be in the moment of doing your thing.

Its not your typical sense of passion, drive or motivation, its much more subtle, calm and fulfilling. And now all the sufferings of life will be handled better and make some sense, they will be justified. Now you will really grow, understand life, have joy and be a hero. Hero has troubles and demons to kill and tasks and responsibilities, but he has deep fun and joy and love in doing all of that. Learning how to be happy in the midst of misery - that is one of the greatest wisdom that hero myths taught us.  Moments of fear and slaughtering dragons are no longer meaningless like before. Now things have eternal meaning. 

In the beginning you will think that you are saviour of the world or hero, but soon you will drop any egoic ideas about your self-importance. You will just do your thing day by day, following whatever your intuition, heart, soul tells you to do, without looking too much into the future. Your soul won't tell ya future, but it can be your guide in the present moment. And, unlike your brain, it doesn't make mistakes. Think about Christ, he died, might seem unfair, but it wasn't mistake or for nothing. It was fair and meaningful. So devote yourself fully to your intuition and soul, they won't make mistakes. You will find the greatest freedom in being slave of God, however uncertain it might sound. And faith will come to you spontaneously. You will see that you are ready to live in solitude, with patience, without material goodies, ready to suffer just for this mission. And well you won't necessarily die like Christ because in modern days its usually not about putting yourself in dangerous situation. But you certainly will feel constant series of ego death and resurrection, because its essential for you to grow. 

This mission has to do with something which isn't you, something beyond yourself, usually it is specific task that you do for the good of other people. And its usually has to do with combination of your biggest love and interest in life + 'uplifting humanity' or survival of humanity. Which made me to think that human evolution itself is a part of this same force. Evolution is God's plan for the better future or heavenly future of humanity which won't happen soon, but you can make it a bit closer coz you are playing your role in it. Heaven on Earth - thats God's goal, believe me or not.

So the reason of your unnecessary or inauthentic suffering is that you still didn't accept that calling. And your whole life is a sequence of same signs that point to this same thing. And life will break your heart, make you suffer and feel empty unless you finally accept that calling. There's phrase: God breaks your heart until you learn how to keep it open all the time.

Mind will always talk about meaninglessness of all this staff, and that its bullshit and reality is an infinite playground and doesn't exist, and make you to think about having pleasures and having fun and doing whatever you desire. Thats devil's advocate. And thats the whole trick and the whole game. Thats ying-yang. The whole point is to learn how to harmonize mind and soul. Have a sense of playground and fun with responsibility and purpose. Meaning and purpose aren't from mind and for mind, its from soul and for soul. Meaning and purpose isn't verbal, its subtle feeling. Its beyond words. Thats why life is meaningless and meaningful in the same time. Meaningfulness is feeling or higher feeling, not justifications and rationalizations. Meaningfulness is something we can feel, not think. If we think about life then sure we'll come to conclusion that its meaningless and purposeless.

But think about it, so what if it doesn't exist? So what if its a dream? Thats all we have, whats your argument really? Non-existing dream is only reality, so be it. It doesn't mean that there's no meaning in this non-existing dream, see? Thats precisely the whole point of having manifested reality, God telling stories to himself. Everything is information, and information is inherently has meaning. Your DNA is a meaning in itself, code is meaning itself. Music is meaning itself. Forms are meanings itself. Its not rational and verbal, its completely irrational and non-verbal. First and foremost its a sense of meaning and purpose or lack of that sense, while rationalization of meaning or no meaning comes after. Animals do have sense of meaningfulness, thats why they try to survive, they just don't rationalize it.

If you are tricked by mind you will go and fulfill your sensual desires and dismiss calling, but then life will hit you over and over again. God is so fair, you don't yet imagine. Once you learn rules, the idea is clear: to be observer and participant of the story, both in the same time. Kids listen to fairytale and in the same time they imagine that they are inside of the story. So your task is to be both storyteller or story-creator and story-iistener or story-observer.

Good thing is that the more able you to follow your mission the easier, more effortless life will be. Everything you need for this purpose will be provided to you without much hustle. You might think its by accident, but no, its God leading you.

And the best thing is that your purpose will have to do with things that you love most in your life. You love them not by accident, you were born to love these things. And these things are not always fancy or popular for others. This is what Jo Campbell called as follow your bliss. He loved to read myths, and in the end it was his purpose, to write about it, and now the whole world benefits from that. Is it fancy, profitable or cool thing - to read myths? Nah, but he loved it. LP is what you like to do when no one looks at you. So it can be really nice thing, its sacrificing your made-up desires, ideas and purposes for the sake of your real purpose. Of course, you might want to start with your made-up purpose first and it can lead you to real purpose. But anyway, you should calm down your mind and listen to your soul/heart/higher-self, however vanilla it might sound to you. There is master Yoda inside of you! He knows what to do. Find him. Start with questioning your whole life from your very birth, start questioning meaninglessness of short-term existence of human life, meaninglessness of accumulating staff and money and career and pleasures. And start moving towards eternity, make eternity your end goal, and meditate.

[Shin]

You're god damn right

 

[BjarkeT]

Sorry but it doesn't seem to be what the research says if you read peak performance by anders erickson and so good they can't ignore you by cal newport they don't say we shouldn't have a life purpose rather that we aren't born with it and have to earn it (same thing with talent/skills) unfortunately people who thought they would have passion first before earning it would end up less happy than others who worked to improve their skills(paraphrasing cal newport) 

finding your calling won't solve lifes problems if you look at people like elon musk even if he did what he loved he was still divorced with hes wife 

 

Edited February 17, 2018 by BjarkeT

[Monkey-man]

@BjarkeT forget science and research, look inside

[NoSelfSelf]

There is no life purpose its a label for helping someone with your passion

[BjarkeT]

@Monkey-man not what science recommends if you do that you will end up less happy than those who work hard at their craft so no thanks sorry but there isn't any research that back up that you will be happy if you look inside for your passion you have to earn it. If you just look inside and do that how much satisfaction will that produce compared to someone who work hard at their craft? The research also says that the better you are the more likely you will feel better about what you do

Edited February 17, 2018 by BjarkeT

[Monkey-man]

@NoSelfSelf forget that, look inside

@BjarkeT forget about happiness, life isn't about mere happiness or working hard

[BjarkeT]

@Monkey-man not saying it is but the research says that this is the path you have to take if you want a life purpose (getting good at your craft) sorry but cal newport isn't that a big fan of the look inside method either 

aren't you saying yourself that that is the goal? (To be happy and work hard? For example by sacrificing)

Edited February 17, 2018 by BjarkeT

[Monkey-man]

@BjarkeT happy and ability to work hard is what you will gain on the path, but that cannot be end goal. end goal is always beyond your own life, thats what will make your life happy and hardworking

[BjarkeT]

Sorry but to get happiness or more acurate satisfaction is whats more likely to come after you have gotten good at something definitely not before starting getting good at your skills/craft (you can still be happy etc before but then it's probably not related to your life purpose)

what or how much do you have to offer with your life purpose if you aren't good at your craft?

Edited February 17, 2018 by BjarkeT

[Monkey-man]

@BjarkeT you will become good at ur craft and become happy. thats essential.

but the purpose isn't just being good and happy. purpose is in sacrifice for higher good, that which is higher than yourself

if ur main purpose is craft and happiness then u can feel meaningless when things go bad, but if your purpose is beyond yourself you will always go forward

[BjarkeT]

It doesn't have to be meaningless if your good at your craft at something you find meaningful(people like elon musk and albert einstein seems to have achieved it)

i recomend checking out the books I mentioned above for more information and understanding why the craft/skills are important there is a lot of information in the interviews so you don't necessarily have to buy the books

Edited February 17, 2018 by BjarkeT

[NoSelfSelf]

@Monkey-man im looking its empty ??

[Monkey-man]

@BjarkeT ok, I will

[BjarkeT]

@Monkey-man awesome thanks 

[egoless]

@Monkey-man With that post you are enlightened as fk my friend  

Only the most advanced on the path will understand your deep meaning in this post.

Edited February 18, 2018 by egoless

[Monkey-man]

@egoless actually i am not  it can be seen before enlightenment

[Elisabeth]

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You need to find your LP within your soul/higher-self/your inner teacher, its already there inside of you, just calm down all of your thoughts and desires (ALL OF THE DESIRES) to be able to see it. And when you will experience higher calling which will come from your soul, you will eventually start to see how your whole life and your personality and all the dots connect with each other. It won't be rationalizing but intuitive understanding. (...) you were born to sacrifice your life to work towards this purpose (...) Its not your typical sense of passion, drive or motivation, its much more subtle, calm and fulfilling.

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@Monkey-man So you have experienced this? Wanna share your purpose?

Also, what makes you think that it's not just your individual experience, that everyone has a purpose like this?

[Nahm]

@Monkey-man Nothing add’s up to nothing. There’s nothing here, it’s all appearance. The higher purpose ‘beyond all this’ is the root of dogmas and their implied consequences. This is revealed with transcendence of self & thinking, as it is only thinking.

A wise man once said:

They love to tell you
Stay inside the lines
But something's better
On the other side

I want to run through the halls of my high school
I want to scream at the
Top of my lungs
I just found out there's no such thing as the real world
Just a lie you've got to rise above

Hard to read J Mayor and see him as a wise man, but, he’s you too. All that’s in question is who we listen to, how refined are our distinctions. People are where the purpose trail ends. 

[Monkey-man]

@Elisabeth everyone’s, because that’s how reality works, I intuit it in everyone. You wouldn’t be born if reality didn’t have job for you. I think Leo said once that we got to be vehicle of god’s will and let him work through us. That’s how life is supposed to be ideally. Humans are all different precisely because of evolution’s specialisation. God specialises himself, so some people do science, some people do religion, some people write books, some write music etc. and maybe even raising children and doing family things can be main purpose who knows? Earth survival and everyone’s life and happiness benefits this way. If it wasn’t the case then we all would have same talents and would do only one thing and destroy the planet already. I’ve experienced it, tbh my purpose is quite complicated to explain but big part of it has to do with future of evolution of Homo sapiens, at least to my current understanding that’s how it seems to be, but of course it can lead to anywhere.

@Nahm no man, this didn’t come up from my thinking or my emotions, so I’m not implying dogma or idea. It came from my silent inner teacher/heart/soul after I started to eradicate desires. Less desires you have - more you see what your soul wants. You can discover it too and very quickly coz you are enlightened already (I guess). Because ask yourself, even if nothing exists - what then you gonna do? Only have fun and engage in hedonism? But for how long that can be sustainable thing to do? It will make you bored fast. Why not to go for an adventure that god destined you to go for? JoCampbell noticed this - hero is usually pre-destined to fulfil particular kind of purpose, so you too are pre-destined for particular thing. Maybe it relates to unconditional love? You can share how you discovered agape, and what it is really. For instance, neither me nor many ppl here experienced what infinite love is and how it relates to nature of reality. Even if it can be experienced, I’d love to read how it is more than just a feeling. That can be great purpose man.