Life is a Dream Video - Questions

[Neo]

Life is a Dream Video - Questions

This is a hypothetical question, is it possible that meditation and psycodelics and Self Enquiry, make it possible / easier for a person to see the mechanism of the construct of reality in the brain and mistake this for the construct of reality? And further, seeing that the construct of reality in our brain is very flimsy and built on belief systems and sometimes just pure imagination, you then confuse the outer world for one which is merely as flimsy (unreal) as a dream?

 

I apologise for these questions, as Jesus once said, I'm eating meat for weeks and I'm suddenly back on milk, but I have to go through these question I'm sorry.

[Vingger]

To begin with "brain" is a model,  is constructed the same way that Andromeda or milk way or a outer world,

Yes, meditation and self-inquiry can help you throwing believes,

No, you can't really confuse imagination with waking reallity ,but preconceptions affects on your behavior and mood,

Psychedelics will don't care about your believe system but those will affect your trip, 

be careful about it, if you are not prepare can slape you in the face and scared you..

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by Vingger

[Neo]

Thank you for your comment and also the useful info about trips as I might need that info in a couple of weeks when they are grown.

 

My actual question may be much more foundational. While I've seen the "brain" video and understand what it is saying,

my question is a big doubt coming in; what if the processes of psycodelics and mediation are showing you not the truth of reality, but the truth  of the brain and it's actually all wrong.

 

[tsuki]

11 minutes ago, Neo said:

my question is a big doubt coming in; what if the processes of psycodelics and mediation are showing you not the truth of reality, but the truth  of the brain and it's actually all wrong.

@Neo Truth is never wrong. Until it is and becomes False.

Edited February 15, 2018 by tsuki

[Neo]

It's still the thing thinking at this stage, and I know you will say I need to get through that. It took me a long time just to disassociate from thought.

Edited February 15, 2018 by Neo

[Vingger]

6 minutes ago, Neo said:

It's still the thing thinking at this stage, and I know you will say I need to get through that.

I think i got your point so,

let's say that quimicals in the brain are not a context in the dream,

still what you are experiencing is not brain or those procceses , you are experiencing the results of these, you ever only will experiece life, only yourself, so what these psychedelics or meditation experience are showing you is more profound that only a molecule somewhere, Neo

Edited February 15, 2018 by Vingger

[Nahm]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

Thank you for your comment and also the useful info about trips as I might need that info in a couple of weeks when they are grown.

 

My actual question may be much more foundational. While I've seen the "brain" video and understand what it is saying,

my question is a big doubt coming in; what if the processes of psycodelics and mediation are showing you not the truth of reality, but the truth  of the brain and it's actually all wrong.

 

You’ll ‘see’ soon. 

[Neo]

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You’ll ‘see’ soon.

Yes, this is the "going in" question... WTF if all this "phenomena" is the illusion and the mind is real. And is my "doubt" why I'm going to get a slap in the face?

Edited February 15, 2018 by Neo

[Nahm]

@Neo it’s you.

[Vingger]

17 minutes ago, Neo said:

Yes, this is the "going in" question... WTF if all this "phenomena" is the illusion and the mind is real. And is my "doubt" why I'm going to get a slap in the face?

You are twisting everything hahaha

wouldn't this mind taking part within phenomena? then how can it be real and the phenomena not...

the slap thing is if you are attached with some idea like i'm a human, suddenly the trip shows you that you are a endless void and feeling you are falling off to nowhere from nowhere and aaaaaaaAAAAAAAH

if you don't drop the idea of i'm a human you gonna be sweating for six hours

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by Vingger

[Neo]

Yes, I don't fail to admit, I don't understand anything, and am stuck in the paradigm.

All I know is my whole life I've had a lot of traction, I walk into a room, and most people think "what have I come in here for" and instead, I think, "fuck! I exist!" and when I found Leo's videos about no-self the same sort of "traction" feelings occur so it kept me going on this path. Except, I understand eventually, I may have to admit, "fuck! I don't exist!" I have also had a couple of experiences where I gained complete clarity of the room during self enquiry, a fleeting glimpse.

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by Neo