how fast is the path to enlightenment?

[Patang]

once you have really started your journey to enlightenment, it cannot be undone. the pace is determined only by your determination do make the journey. according to your determination, this will be the time to attain enlightenment.

Edited February 14, 2018 by Patang

[Shin]

I thought I could do nothing.

I thought I am not in control.

I thought I don't exist.

 

So are you saying that I can't but can, and if yes, can I can my can't ?

[Vingger]

Can be now, or comeback ten years later -Eckhart Tolle

[Patang]

@Shin "Yes We Can" (2008, Barack Obama) 

Edited February 14, 2018 by Patang

[Shin]

1 minute ago, Vingger said:

Can be now, or comeback ten years later -Eckhart Tolle

I thought the present moment is all we will ever have ?

You're contradicting yourself guys ...

Edited February 14, 2018 by Shin

[Joseph Maynor]

It depends on how dense your Ego is, and it’s in direct proportion to that.  Oftentimes the densest Egos become Spiritual Egos, and they lose consciousness of being Egos.  They think they are self-realized, but they’re actually not.

Edited February 14, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Vingger]

5 minutes ago, Shin said:

I thought the present moment is all we will ever have ?

You're contradicting yourself guys ...

Is a joke, he laugh respectfully at the end of the phrase,

means that enlightenment is right here right now

 

Edited February 14, 2018 by Vingger

[Monkey-man]

Enlightenment can be attained quite fast. But path never ends, there's always more coz it goes beyond enlightenment. When you slaughter all of your demons, you will have to deal with demons of the whole world. Thats why there is such thing as boddhisatvas, they can't help but deal with suffering of the whole world, its not up to them, thats how things work, its a force of evolution.

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Monkey-man said:

Enlightenment can be attained quite fast. But path never ends, there's always more coz it goes beyond enlightenment. When you slaughter all of your demons, you will have to deal with demons of the whole world. Thats why there is such thing as boddhisatvas, they can't help but deal with suffering of the whole world, its not up to them, thats how things work, its a force of evolution.

 The idea of boddhisatva seems Egoic to me.  

[Patang]

6 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

It depends on how dense your Ego is, and it’s in direct proportion to that.

you see, the slickly ego is saying to some, that it is too big and dense, to be dismantled in a reasonable time...

[Vingger]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

 La idea de boddhisatva me parece egoísta.  

People still have ego right?

or is the idea of a colective enlightenment ? (which I had no knowledge of until now )

[Patang]

17 minutes ago, Monkey-man said:

Enlightenment can be attained quite fast. But path never ends, there's always more coz it goes beyond enlightenment. When you slaughter all of your demons, you will have to deal with demons of the whole world. Thats why there is such thing as boddhisatvas, they can't help but deal with suffering of the whole world, its not up to them, thats how things work, its a force of evolution.

sorry, but this is just not true. you must discover the truth yourself, that is if you want to.

Edited February 14, 2018 by Patang

[Vingger]

4 minutes ago, Patang said:

sorry, but this is just not true.

argue you bastards (? 

i include people's ego as a part of me that i can't see by myself, "other" have to show me,

that's why you deal world's demons

[Monkey-man]

Oh sorry prophets, my bad

[Shin]

9 minutes ago, Patang said:

sorry, but this is just not true. you must discover the truth yourself, that is if you want to.

What if I want and don't want at the same time ?

[Patang]

22 minutes ago, Vingger said:

argue you bastards (?

it is your part of your journey, do it yourself to discover the truth yourself. this can not be done by others.

21 minutes ago, Shin said:

What if I want and don't want at the same time ?

so you are stuck in the duality zone, and you have not started your journey yet.

Edited February 14, 2018 by Patang

[Ether]

There only certainty is that there is no certainties.

[Torkys]

5 minutes ago, Ether said:

There only certainty is that there is no certainties.

Including this one Skepticism is self-defeating and it's just beautiful.

Edited February 14, 2018 by Torkys

[Faceless]

As long as there is a movement of measure there will cease to be a freedom from the self

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, Faceless said:

As long as there is a movement of measure there will cease to be a freedom from the self

Clinging to the impermanent is foolish.  Who said that?  That was one wise dude!  Be the atmosphere not the clouds.  That's the same advice!  

Edited February 14, 2018 by Joseph Maynor