Meta question..

[MarkusSweden]

Can the very activity to be here at Actualized.org forum and discuss be a spiritual activity? 

I think it can. 

If you compare to a soccer game, where real life with love, happiness, peace etc, belong to the playing field, the game itself so to speak.. 

..and thoughts/knowledge/mental masturbation belong to the substitutes' bench

You get that metaphor? 

Do Actualized.org/forum with all its threads belong to the playing field or substitutes' bench you think? 

I really enjoy it here, so I think it's "spiritual" 

To be here and discuss can very well be a part of life after enlightenment, right? 

Or will the interest falls short you think? 

Edited February 11, 2018 by MarkusSweden

[MarkusSweden]

Osho said something very interesting about this.. 

..he said that the process of discover, discuss, and argue is spiritual as long as you are empty of knowledge, and drop all knowledge that comes your way at the very same time you gain it. 

He viewed knowledge as something that flows through you, it shapes you, but the knowledge never stays with you.

Like waterfall over a stone, the stone never collect any water, but it let it self to be shaped by it.

Therefore, it's a spiritual activity to be here and enjoying the threads if you manage to do as Osho said. 

But if you have old knowledge to defend and persuade others with. And desire to gain more knowledge(ego), then it's not life, its dead! 

COMPLETELY DEAD! (IMPORTANT)

Those who are the most innocent here, those who never correct anyone based on knowledge they are fully alive as they participate. 

Edited February 11, 2018 by MarkusSweden

[Joseph Maynor]

Oh yeah.  People can become enlightened here if they do the work.  Lots of different perspectives here, people willing to help, etc.  Spoon-feeding haha.  

Edited February 11, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[MarkusSweden]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Oh yeah.  People can become enlightened here if they do the work.  Lots of different perspectives, etc.

Agree!

[snowleopard]

Inasmuch as one is not dreaming that the dream is not a dream does it really matter which dream one prefers to express and explore within?

[Nahm]

@MarkusSweden For sure. It’s good to hear what others experience, it serves to inspire our own self inquiry. A fun loop.