The purpose of the dream

[egoless]

What is the purpose of waking up out of the dream called life other than realising the life is the infinite dream and there is nothing beyond it... So what is the purpose of the dream? To be happy, to have fun, to explore and dream whatever the fk you want!.... 

You are not going anywhere from reality even after you “wake up” you still continue dreaming but life becomes the lucid dream. So in the end if it is all dream does it really matters what kind of marketing are you doing? What kind of career you are doing? If you like it and if you are enjoying  your life. Sure it feels better to be contributing at the global scale but what is wrong with working as CEO at mcdonalds @Leo Gura? This is all dream and in a dream you feel how tasty that juicy big mac is and you thank Ceo of Mcdonalds... See? There is a paradox - yes it may not be so healthy but in the end what is health in a dream? You eat that juicy big mac and you experience the taste. After all the whole purpose of this never ending dream is experiencing and exploration... 

Do you really go somewhere else after waking up? No! There is no way out of reality because it is everything! Just wake up in the dream and enjoy your lucid fucking dreaming!

 

Edited February 11, 2018 by egoless

[Shin]

The path in a nutshell:

 

[snowleopard]

@egoless  I'd suggest that the purpose of it all is to dream up the purpose of it all ... it's quite unconditional that way.

[Monkey-man]

What was the purpose of Hercules falling from Olymp, sacrificing himself, making 12 deeds and returning to Olymp? What’s the meaning of Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey, a common plot structure across all stories and myths? Is it really all about creating exciting life for yourself that will end anyways? Then what’s the purpose of evolution and why it’s so damn smart??? Why your life is the way it is and not otherwise? Why you have certain aspirations, inclinations and talents that are given to you from birth? Why there are certain fears that are unique to you and not to all people? And finally, ask yourself, why little kids love to hear stories before they go to sleep?? Contemplate on all of that untill you can no longer think, untill your reality collapses 100 times, 1000 times in a row. Until you no longer know anything.

Edited February 11, 2018 by Monkey-man

[egoless]

@Monkey-man People like you need to wake up and realise that lucid dreaming itself has no purpose at all. Charachters are dreaming their own purposes! So if you know that you would know thst there is nothing wrong or right in creating an exciting life for yourself. If you could dream everything you wanted while being aware of it what would you dream when you go to bed?! 

It’s all about what kind of life you want to experience in this dream. You have infinite time, infinite chances! Stop being so damn serious about this small part of your dream.

now tell me what is wrong with being a CEO at Mcdonalds while traveling around the world and experiencing everything you want. Your company makes not so healthy food but tasty for some and they enjoy the experience of that tasty big mac. You offer a choice for people in a dream to experience tasty fast food but not so healthy? It is all dream. Contemplate what does health in the dream mean? Now contemplate what does the experience in the dream mean?   

Edited February 11, 2018 by egoless

[Blissout]

I always wanted to be a cleaner, when I wake up i m going to clean those dirty dream windows of those dirty dream humans 

[egoless]

3 minutes ago, Blissout said:

I always wanted to be a cleaner, when I wake up i m going to clean those dirty dream windows of those dirty dream humans 

I always wanted to respond to your dream post

[Natasha]

1 hour ago, egoless said:

So what is the purpose of the dream?

For the Absolute to experience itself through form.

[egoless]

4 minutes ago, Natasha said:

For the Absolute to experience itself through form.

Yes and everything is inevitable, everything is already happening now. And nobody is in control. So enjoy your dream as it is. My message here is to let go being so damn serious about life just experience it however you want it. That’s the whole life purpose for you  

[Natasha]

@egoless Well said 

[Preetom]

@egoless

Whats wrong with being Mcdonald's CEO? Nothing!

If you are totally happy and ecstatic eating junk food, jacking off to porn, lying and manipulating etc all the time then whats stopping you from living that life? If the hedonistic life is so great then why is self-reflection arising in the 1st place? After all, your body/mind calls for your attention only when you are in pain and suffering or something is out of balance/something needs to be done to readjust. All pain and suffering are call for attention to look at ourselves.

It would be much more efficient to actually focus on becoming Mcdonald's CEO and getting whatever that comes with it rather than speculating about what is meaning/purpose/happiness of it. Why are you trying to find an answer or argue If you really think that being Mcdonald's CEO will make you complete. The attempt to generalize purpose/meaning/values/morality across everyone is one of the core reasons of conflicts.

PS: This reply is not a personal attack towards you. If it feels that way then its either my failure to articulate it properly or its just the nature of texts on screen

Edited February 11, 2018 by Preetom

[egoless]

@Preetom I’m not trying to define life purpose to anyone here on the contrary! You did not understand the deeper meaning of my post. I’m saying that if you want to be donald trump be it but be ready for consequences... there is no ultimate right or wrong. It’s all about what do you want to dream about?! Remember the Leo’s video about marketing? It was more directed to that. I see nothing wrong in working at mcdonalds as a chef. If that chef enjoys his job thinks that he is giving people tasty fast food and enjoys his experience of the dream what’s wrong with his dream than? There is no ultimate right or wtong! That’s all I’m saying... just let it go get popcorn and watch your dream....

Edited February 11, 2018 by egoless

[Preetom]

8 minutes ago, egoless said:

@Preetom I’m not trying to define life purpose to everyone here on the contrary! You did not understand the deeper meaning of my post. I’m saying that if you want to be donald trump be it but be ready for consequences... there is no ultimate right or wrong. 

The truth has been spoken!!

About Leo, we gotta understand that all teaching/information rests on a particular context. I don't think you can prepare a teaching which will teach you to become Donald Trump and a Zen Master at the same time. Totally acing both fields... 

Leo teaches from his perspective. So of course, he shares principles and techniques that resonate and work for him. 

AGAIN, If a Mcdonald's chef is so happy and fulfilled with his own job and whatever he does, then he wouldn't be 'searching' for a LEO over the internet to find answers to his frustration and helplessness towards life. So just let him do his job and remain 'happy'

And those who are seeking for answers already cause they feel a lack/wound, you can't send them back to their old Mcdonald's chef job. So just let them search, learn and find fulfillment in their lives

Finally its so easy to say just let go everything and enjoy life. But how are you gonna let go something which you don't even have in the 1st place? I guess its wiser to focus on our own selves and let everyone take their own time and path to realize the truth of letting go and enjoying life  

 

[Monkey-man]

@egoless it's neither serious nor it's unserious. I'm not saying you need to be serious, but be open that there's more and have a sense of wonder. We can't claim importance or unimportance, to be or not to be, purposefulness or purposelessness, meaningfulness and meaninglessness. Every day you gonna try to resolve this debate! You will switch from one to another and so just let yourself to do that instead of clinging to one extreme, truth lies in balance. Yes explore reality, and exploring reality isn't mere fun and happy hedonism, it's more than that. Exploration and finding balance between survival and being can make you more satisfied than pleasure-seeking. In fact, this dream isn't created for fun only, this dream is built on survival first of all, try to see why. Its beyond short-term enjoyment, go and see why life has so many patterns which repeat themselves over and over again. Too strange for purposeless dream to have such a great order. That's when exploration can be really interesting. Not from mere consumption. Just keep in mind that maybe your dream life depends on whether you can uncover mystery. Don't listen to all the escapist advaitans, Buddhists who seek nirvana drug, that's pleasure-seeking which will fail you. Don't seek pleasures, instead find equanimity and balance, that's what everyone wants, that's the biggest pleasure.

Dont cling to your current understanding. Why do you think you're asking about purpose? What's that thing inside of you that's asking? Don't cling to non-duality. It's just a theory that helps to explain reality and enlightenment, and it has limits. Although it's very useful but it can lead to absurdity and mislead people. And it doesnt explain much, it's more about directing. Any ideology can be helpful in the beginning and harmful in the end. And Enlightenment too isn't goal in itself! It might wake you up, might make you happy, might make you to see truth, but it all goes beyond that. Don't abuse idea of dream, use it wisely and you will find that there are more interesting things to do. Sorry for preaching mode, don't believe me, please see for yourself, it might worth it.

[Preetom]

2 hours ago, egoless said:

So in the end if it is all dream does it really matters what kind of marketing are you doing? What kind of career you are doing? If you like it and if you are enjoying  your life. Sure it feels better to be contributing at the global scale but what is wrong with working as CEO at mcdonalds @Leo Gura? This is all dream and in a dream you feel how tasty that juicy big mac is and you thank Ceo of Mcdonalds... See?

Another thing I wanna mention. YEAH NOTHING MATTERS AFTER THE DREAM IS OVER.

But it matters 100% RIGHT FUCKING NOW when my ass is suffering and I'm looking for something to fix it. That's what begins the inevitable journey towards self actualizaion

[egoless]

10 minutes ago, Monkey-man said:

In fact, this dream isn't created for fun only, this dream is built on survival first of all

Dream is not created it does not even exist. It just is however it is. You can’t explain it by creation. It is absolutely meaningless like your last night’s nightmare. However what kind of meaning you make out of it is totally up to you! I never said life is about only having fun or hedonism! I said there is nothing wrong if somebody thinks like that. I never said my purpose is just fun because fun is not the most fun for me  For me the most fun is exploring this dream fullest possible and experiencing different perspectives - the beauty of existence. Acquiring the deepest knowledge! But for you or someone else if it is to be a chef at mcdonalds what is wrong with it?

Edited February 11, 2018 by egoless

[egoless]

13 minutes ago, Preetom said:

Another thing I wanna mention. YEAH NOTHING MATTERS AFTER THE DREAM IS OVER.

But it matters 100% RIGHT FUCKING NOW when my ass is suffering and I'm looking for something to fix it. That's what begins the inevitable journey towards self actualizaion

Correct! But as you said it is all about balance. Self actualization should be balanced and aimed towards what and how you want to experience this dream. After all there is no self to actualized  

[Joseph Maynor]

You don't do anything -- because you don't exist.  All beliefs about you doing something are false.  Imagine you are a Sun that is covered up with a bunch of garbage.  Enlightenment is not about the Sun leveling up to improve itself.  Enlightenment is about removing all the garbage off your Sun, so that you can shine as you are, not as you fantasize you will become.  And all that garbage is beliefs that are foolishly, but understandably attached to.  See?  You need to get out of your own way paradoxically.  Stop thinking you are controlling anything.

Edited February 11, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[egoless]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You don't do anything because you don't exist.  All beliefs about you doing something are false.

And that’s what I said. 

[egoless]

7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Stop thinking you are controlling anything.

Who should stop then?  

dude there is more simple way to articulate what you are trying to say: just grab a fuckin popcorn and enjoy the movie called life!