Two questions in 1 thread

[Deep]

Do you think successful people are psychologically healthier on average? 

What do you think about taking huge risks? For example Elliott Hulse was in $90,000 of debt. He still started a business. 

 

[Nahm]

@Deep Yes. Success is the product (typically) of believing one can do what one set’s their mind to. No room for victim role, self doubt, etc.     Yes to risks. I went into more debt than that to start a business. The only way to ensure not succeeding, is not to take risks. 

[Armando Gutierrez]

It's really a question of motivation.

Some people chase success for social status. Or because they think it will make them happy(I'm sure it does to a point).

Or because of greed. Or so they can help others.

Wanting and pursuing success is a stage in Spiral Dynamics too. So according to that model, it's normal and expected.

[Deep]

@Nahm Thanks for your input. I've also noticed successful people are psychologically healthier but not always. Some psychopathic people can attain success too. 

@Armando Gutierrez Yes I agree some pursue success for wrong reasons. 

[Nahm]

@Deep for sure. 

[alyra]

On 2/8/2018 at 5:50 PM, Deep said:

Do you think successful people are psychologically healthier on average? 

yes, I believe "success" means "someone who is fulfilled, passionate, with the strength to carry whatever load they do carry, and with habits of healthful body, mind, and spirit" so by definition anyone healthy is successful

 

 

[Key Elements]

On 08/02/2018 at 2:50 PM, Deep said:

Do you think successful people are psychologically healthier on average? 

Success in the business world is defined as earning passive income to the point where the person can live off of it without a 9-5 job. In such situations, the person is free to do "whatever he/she wants." Of course, with this much free time, the person will have to contemplate on how to spend the free time.

Yes. The person will have to be psychologically healthy to go through with this. It's very different than the norm of society. The norm is just getting a 9-5 job and retire at an old age. That's it. Many ppl can't relate to this part of the path. They will think that you're just doing it to become "rich and greedy." If you do try to help ppl, that could be perceived as being a "show off." There are a lot of projections from society. It's best not to say anything and to think about what to say as your occupation when asked. Just like we don't go around talking about enlightenment and spirituality as an interest.

Another thing is, if you do become wealthy because of this, you can't let money get to your head. What are you going to do with all that free time? Plan ahead.

So, the answer to your question is, some successful ppl are psychologically healthier, and some are not. The ones who are not don't know how to manage their free time and/or money.

On 08/02/2018 at 2:50 PM, Deep said:

What do you think about taking huge risks? For example Elliott Hulse was in $90,000 of debt. He still started a business. 

You don't have to take huge risks when earning passive income. You could do it from your home computer. Of course, it will take a lot of time. It takes all of your free time to commit to this.

[Deep]

On 2/13/2018 at 6:39 AM, Key Elements said:

Yes. The person will have to be psychologically healthy to go through with this. It's very different than the norm of society. The norm is just getting a 9-5 job and retire at an old age. 

I think people with decent 9-5 jobs are healthy too. 

[Key Elements]

3 hours ago, Deep said:

I think people with decent 9-5 jobs are healthy too. 

Yes, I agree. However, many ppl will not be able to relate to you if you tell them that you are pursuing entrepreneurship and trying to earn passive income. They will comment in all the wrong ways. Try it and find out. If you tell them that you're a doctor or engineer or any white collar job, of course they will understand and be more friendly toward you. They could relate to that.

Some entrepreneurs say that only 10-20% of the world's population have passive income. Those ppl are persistent, step out of their comfort zone of just having a job, and not listen to all the misinformation out there about entrepreneurship. 

I'm not saying to quit the job. You could do this on your free time.