How can we discover our True Nature of Nothingness doing Self Inquiry ?

[Heart of Space]

27 minutes ago, Faceless said:

No offense but opinion is corrupt. If this is worked out very cafeully you will see that it’s not based on my or your opinion. It’s seeing that opinion is part of the very limit of thought. 

Only in a dialog can one meet another in this inquiry. 

I'm a bit confused by your response, it's a bit cryptic.  I was just saying I'm not sure the real effectiveness of neti neti, or self-inquiry and I feel a Vipassana style works better, but ultimately I could absolutely be wrong.  Which is why I made sure to add that he, or she, should do what feels right for them.  My only point is that when you concentrate on 'what is' you in effect are doing self-inquiry and neti neti.   If you can focus on a sensation in the present moment, the moments with no mind you are experiencing reality without the mind taking ownership.  

I feel that neti neti in particular could be a bit neurotic because it seems like instead of trying to quiet the mind you're having the thought, "this sensation is NOT me" rather than just seeing the sensation as it is.  I believe the goal should be see sensations as they are rather than "this sensation is me," or "this sensation is NOT me."  It should look more like "this sensation is this sensation."  In my humble opinion.  Like I said, I could be wrong.  Smarter more experienced people than me would disagree so I'm open to being completely wrong about this.  

[Faceless]

16 minutes ago, Shin said:

Wjat do you mean by negation ?

 

Seeing and being aware of the contradicting, divisive, fragmented, mechanical, nature of thought is the very movement and reason for disorder.  Because thought “the self” is always seeking security, validation, and so on. This very movement of self affirmation is what brings about illusion and deception, and distorts the quality of thought. 

To see the danger in something and in seeing that danger avoid it all together. This is intelligence, wisdom, and negation is this very state of “enlightenment”. 

A man/woman who is free of the past. It is the past, with its tradition and its authority, that has to be negated.

Dont accept what I say. Investigate/inquire for yourself. Acceptance of another as an authority is irresponsible. 

I hope you investigate this my friend. Freedom from the self is the ultimate freedom. 

[Faceless]

32 minutes ago, Heart of Space said:

I'm a bit confused by your response, it's a bit cryptic.  I was just saying I'm not sure the real effectiveness of neti neti, or self-inquiry and I feel a Vipassana style works better, but ultimately I could absolutely be wrong.  Which is why I made sure to add that he, or she, should do what feels right for them.  My only point is that when you concentrate on 'what is' you in effect are doing self-inquiry and neti neti.   If you can focus on a sensation in the present moment, the moments with no mind you are experiencing reality without the mind taking ownership.  

I feel that neti neti in particular could be a bit neurotic because it seems like instead of trying to quiet the mind you're having the thought, "this sensation is NOT me" rather than just seeing the sensation as it is.  I believe the goal should be see sensations as they are rather than "this sensation is me," or "this sensation is NOT me."  It should look more like "this sensation is this sensation."  In my humble opinion.  Like I said, I could be wrong.  Smarter more experienced people than me would disagree so I'm open to being completely wrong about this.  

I’m not smart. I have never been educated. Mostly self taught. Smart/intellect is not a requirement anyway. Intellect helps in explaining though.

You can do it. Just learn about yourself and the relationship to thought. It’s  fundamental my friend.

[Faceless]

Do u see that the self is the the product of the past? 

[Joseph Maynor]