Do always-happy adults exist?

[SOUL]

19 minutes ago, Sunchild said:

The Witness

*inserts forum reflexive question with similarly reflexive answer belief dogma*

Who is the witness? The witness doesn't exist.

*laughs*

Edited January 23, 2018 by SOUL

[Monkey-man]

7 hours ago, alyra said:

i dunno what happiness or why people obsess over it so much. makes no sense to me. there's more to life than happiness. seems people think happiness is some thing to acquire. if it is well, i don't care for it. I'm pretty sure it ain't tho. and i still don't care for it. it's nice when I feel happy, of course. I cherish it. but there's more to life than happiness. 

happiness is simply platform to be able to do other things

[starsofclay]

@Monkey-man I own a business in the service industry and therefore encounter hundreds of people per week. A few of them do seem so incredibly happy every time they come in.  Some so happy and cheerful that my depressed ego (now in recovery) would do anything it could to shy away from them.  At first I thought it was because the happiness annoyed me, but later realized it was because I was simply jealous. It was that realization that helped spark my recovery.  Of course I have no idea how they act the other 99% of their lives, but the ones I am referring to, you can definitely tell there's something going on up in their heads, chemical-wise. Then again, they could be on some good drugs, so who knows? 

[Nahm]

Ime there’s mindfulness & unconditional love. Happy is a byproduct.

[SOUL]

@starsofclay I understand your challenge. Our brains behave in certain ways because of our genetics and there is conditioning that happens from our environment. So we can develop associations between the brain behaviors and the conditioning, that results in ideas about it. A suppression or a excess of a chemical can make us 'feel' in a way we interpret as 'sad', 'depressed', 'anxious', 'agitated' or in any number of emotional ways. We may assume it's us 'feeling' that way and can further interpret those 'feelings' negatively.

This can set a spiraling dynamic of increased 'mindset' of 'feeling' that very often is accompanied with thoughts, inner dialog, memories and all sorts of other psychological triggers. A way to mitigate it and begin the untangling the associations can be through intentional impartial observation of the mind. By consciously not endorsing those associations and just accepting that those brain behaviors are what they are, it allows us to not intensify it while also not letting it define our whole being.

It may not change the way the brain behaves, although I have had in what appears to be in my own experience, coupled with eating clean, some success in rewiring(neuroplasticity) the habituation of the mind to ease it. I can have a lasting and genuine sense of well being and joy in life even if I'm not quite 'feeling it' naturally in every moment.

I would encourage some exploration in this way to see if it can help.

Edited January 24, 2018 by SOUL

[Faceless]

@SOUL

Yes...Thought which is conditioned effects the brain cells to. So if there is disorder of thought that disorder alters and effects the chemistry of the brain cells. And if there is order of thought the brain cells are also altered and create a different pattern of chemistry and order. Thought being a material process brings about a mutation on the brain cells and the brain cells determine an establish a particular pattern of thought right? 

Does that makes sense friend? Are we meeting one another? 

 

Edited January 23, 2018 by Faceless

[student]

@Monkey-man yes, they exist. We are a diversity, we are individuals, we do not function the same. I know people who just laugh and tell jokes almost all the time, and it's not because they are superficial or something like that, it's because that's how they are, it's just their authenticity. For them playfulness is more in forefront, than seriousness.

[Barbarian Number 8]

On 2018-01-23 at 0:03 AM, Monkey-man said:

i dunno what do you mean by neutral state, i dont think such thing exist. @Barbarian Number 8

neutral state is when you cannot move internally or externally at all. any emotion trigger motions, and motions cannot be neutral

i guess peaceful happy is the most neutral kind of state

You made some good points, thank you!

By "neutral" i mean "not affected but fully aware and working", in balance/Equilibrium for me it would also be neatrul even after a degree of motivators poked me. Like hunger, naked boobs and a letter from the taxoffice.

I do think motions can be neutral, in a sort of way. Example, if you tell a hilarius joke to a comedian, they can respond with "that´s funny" and internally appriciate it, but not really laughing until they pee themselves.

Peaceful happy? I had to think on that one and would put it on the positive end. It´s mirror close would then be peaceful unhappy? hmmm...close I guess.

It does not fit my model. So I have to think on it some more.

hmmmm...maybe "mellow" would be a better label to use?

[Barbarian Number 8]

@Serotoninluv  I just like to say that people like you tend to make the world a happier place to live in, sooooo....don´t change _too_ much, ok?