Frankie10

Help! Confused about contemplation

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After watching this video, I'm confused and a bit frustrated (which is not a bad sign ;)). If we should investigate something in order to get to its truest nature, when do we actually KNOW  we have found the latter? And if we should not use beliefs, books, speculations, intuitions, models, theories, experiments etc. to find it, what tool is left?

Also,  isn't it impossible to get to the raw truth of something by thinking? Isn't it a neverending loop? If there is no absolute truth in a dual world, is enlightenment the only way out? Thus, Is understanding/experiencing the true nature of reality maybe enough to subsequently understand smaller parts of it without effort, for example the question 'what is art?'. If this is the case, why bothering with contemplation, why spending hundreds or thousands of hours investigating a single question when we could solely try to get to the highest truth (enlightenment), where a lot of 'smaller' truths will naturally flow to us? Isn't what Leo is explaining, and I am asking here, merely more concepts, ideas, philosophizing, thus part of the endless loop?

 Since these are just spontaneous thoughts, and I haven't actually tried contemplation yet, I may find answers to some of the questions here. However I would love if someone would tell me his/her opinion! Have a good day guys :)

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@Frankie10 Find out for yourself.

In my experience, cutting through the fluff of what I thought to be true was enough. I haven't even gotten close to real contemplation, Im still purging through thoughts that are arising for no reason... 

There is a lot to it. Try Leo's Do Nothing meditation and see how that works for you. Don't manipulate reality. 

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Conteplation is a tool for getting the truth there is a saying for enligtment the one who starts contemplation will be ended by contenplation and for other truths contemplation is useful so you dont aceppt anything on blind fate(you will know its true when it comes from concept to direct experience)cool game i sometimes like to play is like i just arrived on earth and i dont know anything about anything and im queastioning myself whats that what is this thing and almost always what i really think it is its just an assumption about that thing..


There is nothing safe with playing it safe.

 

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