You got non-existence wrong

[Monkey-man]

3 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

Allen Watts: The system as a whole appears to be a distribution of solid entities or modes of energy in the midst of emptiness or space. Human consciousness preoccupies itself with these entities, and virtually ignores their spatial background. We consider it "nothing" in the sense of that which has neither importance nor significance, forgetting that without the spatial field, none of these entities could be manifested or distinguished. There is, however, between space and entity the same polar relationship as between crest and trough, for which reason "nothingness" is not simply the contrary or absence of "being", but rather its ground and origin. We believe so firmly in the maxim "ex nihilo nihil fit" – "nothing can come out of nothing" – that it is almost impossible for us to see that emptiness is the essential prerequisite for every form of being.

thats all i wanted to say

Edited December 30, 2017 by Monkey-man

[Dodo]

6 minutes ago, Monkey-man said:

thats all i wanted to say

But that doesn't only mean that non existence doesn't exist,  it can also mean non existence is the only thing that exists. It depends on perspective. 

Non existence hallucinates existence and existence in return hallucinates non existence - the perfect strange loop ?

[snowleopard]

"Form is not other than emptiness ... emptiness is not other than form" ~ The Heart Sutra

A dichotomous self attached to one or the other is futility.

[Monkey-man]

non-existence cannot hallucinate anything

there's only existence of empty absolute that hallucinates existence of forms. its is only one existence. what's the substance of empty absolute? itself.

every new hallucination is old hallucinations that existed before and mixed up into new forms

any experience of void you had with meditation or psychedelics is still part of existing reality.

all you nothingness realizations is that existing empty absolute

surely we can play with language. but there is clearly only one absolute, and non-existence has no absolute, because it is undefined.

and absolute emptiness is already self-sufficient timeless existence

the other side of the coin of existence of forms is existence of emptiness

non-existence is existence first of all. there is no non-existence without existence. only existence creates idea of non-existence, but whatever you point as non-existence will be existence

similarly, only ego (which doesn't exist independently) creates idea of separateness

but if non-existence would create existence then it should imply that ego creates oneness, but this is not the case

Edited December 30, 2017 by Monkey-man