Physical reality is a mirror - Bashar

[AleksM]

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Physical reality is actually a mirror: Your physical reality is just a reflection of what you most strongly believe to be true. And like a mirror, physical reality will not change unless you change first.

Do not rely on the outer world as your measuring stick for your own spiritual growth, rely on your response to the outer world to determine how much you have grown.

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If you look in a mirror and see your reflection is frowning, you don't go over to the mirror and try to make the reflection smile- you know that the only way to get the reflection to smile is to decide to smile first.

Same, Physical Reality is not outer, it is inner, it’s just a reflection of you at every given moment, individually and collectively. So if you wish to change your outer physical reality, all you really need to do is to change something about yourself and you will see that change take place unerringly and effortlessly.

 

 

Edited December 29, 2017 by AleksM

[Echoes]

@AleksM never understood this concept really. If I look at a tree and a river, how is that a reflection of what I most strongly believe to be true?

[haai14]

@Echoes if you think what a ugly tree and you get negative emotions because of the tree being ugly that determines your inner world.

Edited December 29, 2017 by haai14

[Echoes]

@haai14 Yes, but "Your physical reality is just a reflection of what you most strongly believe to be true" the tree doesn't care what I believe. I may have thoughts about the tree, but the tree doesn't give a shit. 

[haai14]

@Echoes ye but your perception will change. you can see a tree  1 day and think its the most ugliest thing in the world and the other day the prettiest.the tree didnt change  you changed your perception. So for example you hate someone you dont hate them you hate what you created in your head and if you drop that you can love them. They didnt change but your percetion did and its like looking at another person.

Edited December 29, 2017 by haai14

[snowleopard]

@Echoes  Yes, as long as one is participating in this consensus dream, I'm not sure there is much choice whether or not to believe in trees or rivers.  They come with the territory. On psychedelics, not so much

[Highest]

The entire world is but a succession of experiences happening within awareness. 

[Echoes]

@haai14 @blazed  I understand that perspective determines interpretation of "physical reality". What I meant was the raw reality of a tree/river/house. How is the pure perception {tree} a reflection of what I believe. First there is a perception/form/colour/seeing, then there is my interpretation of the perception as a consequence of my belief-system. But the "world" in itself is not mirroring a belief of mine. It's not: "I believe tree... oh look there it is!". I can't believe "tree". I hope you see what I mean. it's: "There appears something we call tree, and I believe this to be true about the tree". 

11 minutes ago, blazed said:

 

HOWEVER.

If a terrorist is running with up to with a gun and he's determine to kill no amount of "Oh isn't this fellow lovely.... I love life" is going to change shit, you still gonna get shot.

Again there is something that is pure reality that is functioning completely on its own which doesnt care two craps about what goes on in your mind.

exactly.

Edited December 29, 2017 by Echoes

[haai14]

@Echoes if you look at a tree and have "0" perception and dont judge it at any way then its just tree no more no less. but ass soon as you start thinking about it your projecting your inner world.

But in some cases it necessary to project like in example of blazed. But there you project thing to save yourself you dont say then they are evil or...

Edited December 29, 2017 by haai14

[snowleopard]

@Echoes  In some interpretations of Idealism, what is perceived as a tree is the phenomenal manifestation of an ideation in Mind-at-large. But it still requires an individual locus of perception in subject/object relation to that information, for it to coalesce as the appearance of a 'tree.' In QM terms, this would be the collapse of the wave-function.

[snowleopard]

@Mighty Mouse  Agreed, whereas QM is still clinging to materialism, it hasn't gone far enough to grok the profound implications of Idealism -- which is that there is no substrate producing any substance. 

[Source_Mystic]

If reality is used as mirror that means see others as self and self a others though other actions and deficits you recognize your own. I have also seen times where I give someone advice  and I realize that advice is just as applicable to myself as them. 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Source_Mystic

[AleksM]

@Echoes

I have asked your question in a Bashar group I am a part of. Here are some answers I received so far. I Will add more quotes to my comment in the next 48 hours.

12 hours ago, Echoes said:

If I look at a tree and a river, how is that a reflection of what I most strongly believe to be true?

received answers:

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If you look into a mirror do you just see yourself or do you also see everything around you?

 

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  It's all YOU. The entire universe(s) is one being. You, the tree and the river. When you change the entire reflection changes

 

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 experience it physically - only one truth experience ,, mental process has infinite possibilities to interpret

 

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You came here to Earth / created for yourself this Earth-life experience, in order to have an experience through which you could do a particular kind of learning. As long as your goal continues to be that particular kind of learning, you'll continue to believe that the sky is blue, and water is wet, etc, because all of those things are part of the scene you set for yourself to do this learning.

How do you know when you're done with this particular type of learning or your goal has changed? You die! And then you don't come back for another life.

It's a pretty straightforward system, when you get down to it. :-P

But it's all still just a matter of your beliefs projected outward and then reflected back to you. Everything, everywhere.

 

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  I'm not sure your friend is getting his meaning. Looking in the mirror and seeing the mirror frowning, of course we realize that *we* are the change we seek in the world. Once *we* begin smiling, the reflection smiles. Simple as that. Our world will change once we become the change we seek. Seeking money...we become the money and give it; seeking abundance, we become the abundance first...seeking love, we become the love. It's "what you put out is what you get back." First law.

He's not talking about trees or rivers.

Although it could be about trees and rivers. If we see trees and rivers and see fear and devastation (the Redwoods are so dry they're dying! The rivers are empty when they should be full! The ocean is so polluted!! The sky is full of chemtrails!!) -- again, what we put out is what we get back.

So does that mean we should not "see" what is "right there in front of us" -- drying-up Redwoods, chemtrails in the sky? "Life is meaningless," he says; it only means what we make it mean.

To look at trees and rivers, skies and oceans, as anything less than perfect, we are seeing the imperfection in ourselves.

For me it played out this way: I went to a reservation in 1994 and saw poverty, neglect, need, unemployment, devastation. I was ashamed to live in a country where this kind of atrocious situation was allowed to take place. The reservation needed fixing! Healing! Something! I needed to do my part to find out what the needs were and start doing my small part to heal the devastation. I had no idea what it was.

Looking back on all of that, I can see now that when I saw "they" needed healing, "they" needed fixing, -- it was me who needed the healing. "They" were 100% fine.

When I became 100% fine with myself, "they" didn't need fixing anymore.

 

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How does he feel about a tree and a river?
If it feels calm and relaxed, it is a reflection of him feeling calm and relaxed. If he sees the tree is too big and blocking the sun when he really likes to feel the warmth of the sun and the river is making too much noise and that’s annoying, they are reflecting back to him that he feels annoyed and attracted those experiences to reflect how he feels.

 

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You create literally everything in your reality.
A tree or river would be a collective symbol for us all, (which would include everything we outwardly see) and then we put our meaning to it/them.

 

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@haai14 @blazed @snowleopard @Highest @Mighty Mouse @Source_Mystic Added 1 more quote from Bashar to the first post.

Edited December 29, 2017 by AleksM

[snowleopard]

@AleksM  Interesting interpretations ... Another way to look at it would be to ask: what is a 'tree' mirroring when seen through the lens of a infant mind not preconditioned by its names and stories about it? Pretty much some colors and shapes in motion. Then the parent says, 'That's called a Maple tree, and its leaves are turning red and falling because it's Autumn', or 'That one is called a Spruce tree, and its leaves don't fall off, but don't touch them because they're sharp' or 'That's called Poison Oak, yada, yada yada' ... and after repeated variations on these stories, the 'tree' is soon mirroring a whole lot more than some colors and shapes in motion. This also speaks to Kant's phenomenal/noumenal distinction. As such, does one ever truly see a 'tree' as what it is in essence?