Zen Ox-Herding Pics by Shinzen Young

[Monkey-man]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8aN9O73lgg Part1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PQonSiGkVE Part2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozca_5ifwQ0 Part3

Shinzen Young explains 10 ox-herding pics.

He's especially good at last 4.

He calls pic 7 - complete enlightenment

pic 8 - realizing substance of enlightenment -> Truth aka Nothingness (he doesn't call it truth but i guess its obvious, knowing substance = truth)

pic 9 - realizing form -> appearances that you perceive

pic 10 - knowing what is purpose -> adapting to the world and sharing gifts

Makes me think that many enlightened folks on pic 7 max, 'skipped' 8, and went on living in the world

while 8 was 'achieved' by ultra-hardcore ppl only

That's why (I think) JedMckenna has such dramatic (apocalyptic) and different description of his truth realization (which he calls enlightenment) and suggests not to go for it - because he has realized substance (or not, who knows)

Beyond enlightenment is Truth, knowing substance, a killer and realization that nothing exists and its all god's dream, while in enlightenment on pic 7 - its still reality. (that's all speculation remember)

Edited December 28, 2017 by Monkey-man