Group Stages Vs Individualistic Stages

[Key Elements]

@Leo Gura

You talked about how the US is in Orange Stage a lot in your clips, and that you are partially in the Yellow Stage (another individualistic stage). I felt that you focused on those cause ppl in general in the US could relate and could evolve up to yellow.

However, I noticed that it won't be easy to relate to evolving in blue, green, and up to turquoise for many people growing up in the US. Think about it. Green is for "hippies?" Sure, but that message may have sent off the wrong vibe. Good luck in explaining this if you choose to do this.

To love and to be loved is our purpose in life. Isn't it? Let me give you an example...

An old man died in his apartment. No one knew he died. After 2 weeks, his landlord came to know cause his rent was overdue. The police was involved when they opened the door of his apartment. They took his body away. I'm not sure if ppl in general would want to pass off in this way.

Maybe his story could have gone differently? Maybe if he got married and had children and made a loving family, his family could have had his funeral. Maybe if he joined a place of worship or served his community or society immensely, he could've been noticed.

My point is contribution to a family, group, community, society, and then the world play a major part in our lives.

Question:

In your mind, name 4 people in your life who will help you if you happen to get into big trouble of some kind. Most people cannot even name 3 people. If they do name 3 people, it will be the immediate family. If it's a friend, it's extremely rare. They will be called BFFs or family friends.

@Leo Gura Just saying this out of concern for you and others, ok? You said that a person has to see the limitations of green stage (any stage). A log cabin is a beautiful idea (if you decide to do this)-just make sure a good hospital is nearby and that someone you love has your contact info.

Edited February 27, 2016 by Key Elements

[Guest]

@Key Elements What's bad about the man dying unnoticed? Just because most people label it as undesirable doesn't make it so.  Who are you to say "to love and be loved is the purpose of life"?

Edited February 25, 2016 by Saitama

[Key Elements]

@SaitamaOk. "To love and be loved," doesn't have to be the purpose. So, pls tell me...what's the purpose? Why are we here in this forum talking about life purpose, the Hero's Journey, and the individual and group stages of the Graves model ending in a group stage? Not only that...to top it off: all religions of the world have spiritual enlightenment in it and world peace.

That's a whole lot. I'm not saying that what the old man did was wrong...Why do all this? Why not just end life like the old man? Or, should there be more?

Personally, I don't want to end up like the old man. But this forum's vibe is the complete opposite of the old man.

Edited February 25, 2016 by Key Elements

[Guest]

@Key Elements What's the vibe you get from the old man? I'm not trying to insult your views,(not that you seem offended, I just always like to check). Just sharing perspective and hoping to some in return.

[Key Elements]

@Saitama

The old man story was a real story. There was an old man who died alone in the apartment complex where I used to live.

When I watched Leo's clips, it was very meaningful. All of Leo's clips put together, does NOT sound like the life of the old man. It sounds like, "to love and be loved," which I already described. If it sounded like the old man's story, I wouldn't be looking at this forum.

The old man's story was only work, earn, and then retire. That's it. 

[Key Elements]

@Leo Gura 

Just making a note here..I'm seeing something unfold. Functional relationships probably work like this throughout life: they could be co-dependent at first. Then, they decide to detach themselves, self-improve, and become independent. All this while, they are non-quitters. They observe each other and learn from each other: actions speak louder than words. Finally, some of them may become interdependent, like start a company together. 

This works for all kinds of relationships: couples/nuclear families/extended/joint/BFFs/family friends

@Leo Gura 

Another important note: what's a BFF (Best Friends Forever)? It's someone, either inside or outside the family, who understands you completely. It's an interdependent relationship. You could share anything and everything with him/her. They are detached, non-needy, and self-actualized. They have been through life with a lot of life experiences or learned from other ppls mistakes. The chances are higher to get them later in life when you are also actualized. They are extremely rare. I heard the maximum BFFs that a person can get is 3. They will come to you when you are in big trouble. For example, if you end up in the hospital half way across the world, they will be there the next day. 

Edited March 5, 2016 by Key Elements