Meditation/enlightenment Work Through Lucid Dreaming

[SamEuphoria93]

This novel concept came to me recently. Based on the idea that one can meditate during lucid dreaming, I would imagine this could add an extra 8 hours for serious practice. Has anyone tried this? Thoughts?

[Dodo]

I have one of his book which is very very very good : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dreams-Awakening-Lucid-Dreaming-Mindfulness/dp/1781802025

His site could also be helpful for anyone who wants to browse through http://www.charliemorley.com

Edited October 20, 2017 by Dodo

[electroBeam]

@SamEuphoria93 yes I have tried it.

Its very difficult because a lucid dream state is very different to the waking state you're always in. You may have for example a kundalini awakening during the lucid dream, but find out as you wake up that it was just a hallucination. A projection of what you think a kundalini experience is, not a real kundalini experience.

2nd consideration is to repetitively lucid dream every night is difficult. After a year of training you might be able to lucid dream 3 times a week if you're lucky.

But self inquiry is very effective during a lucid dream. Discrimination(which the founding pillar of jnana yoga) is very effective during lucid states.

 

Honestly if you want to get in more meditation time, you're better off practicing mindfully resting throughout the day so that you develop the ability to sleep 3 hours a night. This approach will be quicker and you will have the luxury of meditating in a waking state rather than a dream state.

 

There's nothing more real to a waking state of reality verse a dream state of reality, but it's just more easier to get distracted by delusion in a dream state. It's not a state appropriate for meditation. 

[Dodo]

41 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

@SamEuphoria93 yes I have tried it.

Its very difficult because a lucid dream state is very different to the waking state you're always in. You may have for example a kundalini awakening during the lucid dream, but find out as you wake up that it was just a hallucination. A projection of what you think a kundalini experience is, not a real kundalini experience.

2nd consideration is to repetitively lucid dream every night is difficult. After a year of training you might be able to lucid dream 3 times a week if you're lucky.

But self inquiry is very effective during a lucid dream. Discrimination(which the founding pillar of jnana yoga) is very effective during lucid states.

 

Honestly if you want to get in more meditation time, you're better off practicing mindfully resting throughout the day so that you develop the ability to sleep 3 hours a night. This approach will be quicker and you will have the luxury of meditating in a waking state rather than a dream state.

 

There's nothing more real to a waking state of reality verse a dream state of reality, but it's just more easier to get distracted by delusion in a dream state. It's not a state appropriate for meditation. 

The information is not factually correct. It's simple to learn with a few easy techniques. Watch the video for example to hear it from the Lion's mouth. From my experience, I followed the techniques he offered and I had lucid dreams within a week. 

Also, Charlie Morley claims that meditating/spiritual practice within a dream is way more powerful than in waking state. 

PS: For those who still want to believe it's hard, there is a new gadget on the market that claims to bring lucid dreams by placing it on your forehead. 

Edited October 20, 2017 by Dodo

[AlwaysBeNice]

Those gadgets haven't been very succesful.

In my experience consciousness work continues, sometimes at a profound level (for some reason more so after psychedelics in my experience, but probably the same would go for a deep meditation experience), but never through my choice and luciddreams I had wherein I did self-inquiry myself wouldn't particularly more successful though I could see they might at some point.

Practicing self-inquiry or self-abidance is practicing a lucid dream technique by the way already, the only technique I would recommend to get into is doing WILD techniques, but it's really hard to get up at night and not want to go back to sleep.

It could be good alsso, if you go take a nap, to put on a guided meditation on a sound not too intrusive but also not too soft sounding and have it melt into your dream