How To Get Started In Pickup?

[egoless]

1 minute ago, SFRL said:

You don't aim for a 5. That's more collateral damage you will be doing. You should go for the 6s and 7s if you consider yourself a 7. 

Also work on yourself. Are you a consistent. Do your self development. Make that 7 a 7.5 or an 8. Total picture. Not just the looks. 

1 hour ago, SFRL said:

Sure that's cool. But think about it this way: What about the beauty of that pink, warm, wet, tight, clean pussy that is underneath the skirt of that 6?

Pussy got no face guys. 

 

 

I think it's the super power to be attracted to girls in lower league. That would make you superman!

[SFRL]

6 minutes ago, egoless said:

I think it's the super power to be attracted to girls in lower league. That would make you superman!

It's not just going for girls that are lower league. It's a wider spectrum 5-9. And actually being able to have success with these women troughout the full range. 

Edited October 4, 2017 by SFRL

[Heart of Space]

Pickup is psychologically poisonous for men in my opinion.  I've never once had an inkling of interest in it what-so-ever.  

Most of pickup sort of comes from this sort of fucked up modern sociopathic approach to dating and extreme objectification of female genitalia and sex.  You don't need to immerse yourself in this sub-culture to get good at interacting with women.  

10 hours ago, SFRL said:

Sure that's cool. But think about it this way: What about the beauty of that pink, warm, wet, tight, clean pussy that is underneath the skirt of that 6?

Pussy got no face guys. 

Please tell me you're still in your teens.  That's like something straight out of the football locker room in 8th grade.  Remember, when everyone was a desperate virgin, pretending not to be a virgin, and talking about sex in the grossest most immature and graphic way possible?  That's what you sound like.  

Pick up culture folks.

Edited October 5, 2017 by Heart of Space

[SFRL]

8 hours ago, Heart of Space said:

Pickup is psychologically poisonous for men in my opinion.  I've never once had an inkling of interest in it what-so-ever.  

Most of pickup sort of comes from this sort of fucked up modern sociopathic approach to dating and extreme objectification of female genitalia and sex.  You don't need to immerse yourself in this sub-culture to get good at interacting with women.  

Please tell me you're still in your teens.  That's like something straight out of the football locker room in 8th grade.  Remember, when everyone was a desperate virgin, pretending not to be a virgin, and talking about sex in the grossest most immature and graphic way possible?  That's what you sound like.  

Pick up culture folks.

I don't know I never was into football. Tell me what was it like? 

And I never really was that desperate, I have always had at least some success with women. 

Everybody is doing 'pick-up' it's really whatever you call it. Whatever strategy you use, it's still 'pick-up'. 

When I talk to these guys I try to get a point across. Shift their perspective. I think in this case that's the most clear way to do it.

That's really what astonishes me about Actualized.org forum. For a forum on which people pride then so much on their intelligence, so many can not read between the lines. 

If you want to explain it to them in another way, then explain it to them in your way. They want some advice on what to do about their situation, so you go ahead and explain to them what to do about their situation. Give them some specifics. 

 

Edited October 5, 2017 by SFRL

[Heart of Space]

1 minute ago, SFRL said:

I don't know I never was into football. Tell me what was it like? 

And I never really was that desperate, I have always had some success with women. 

Everybody is doing 'pick-up' it's really whatever you call it. Whatever strategy you use, it's still pick-up. 

When I talk to these guys I try to get a point across. I think in this case that's the most clear way to do it. If you want to explain it to them in another way, then explain it to them in your way. They want some advice on what to do about there situation, so you go ahead and explain to them what to do about their situation. Give them some specifics. 

 

You sure affirm your supposed success with women a lot.  Who are you trying to convince?  

In my experience people who have successful relationships with women don't distill female attractiveness down to a flawed number rating system and describe female genitalia like a porn addicted obese trucker shortly before implying that you'll be happy to use a "6/10's" pussy as a masturbation tool for yourself to your own selfish sexual satisfaction regardless of a busted face.  

The problem with you saying that you "have success with women" and then you talk about women in this way has few possible likely explanations.  Anyone who has had close romantic relationships with women understands the female psychology and therefore understands how this sort of view of women causes them a lot of distress.  So, either you've never had an intimate romantic relationship with a female, or you're a sociopath and just don't give a fuck.  Which is it?  Immature, or just lacking the neurological features to have the capacity to have empathy for women?   

[SFRL]

2 minutes ago, Heart of Space said:

You sure affirm your supposed success with women a lot.  Who are you trying to convince?  

In my experience people who have successful relationships with women don't distill female attractiveness down to a flawed number rating system and describe female genitalia like a porn addicted obese trucker shortly before implying that you'll be happy to use a "6/10's" pussy as a masturbation tool for yourself to your own selfish sexual satisfaction regardless of a busted face.  

The problem with you saying that you "have success with women" and then you talk about women in this way has few possible likely explanations.  Anyone who has had close romantic relationships with women understands the female psychology and therefore understands how this sort of view of women causes them a lot of distress.  So, either you've never had an intimate romantic relationship with a female, or you're a sociopath and just don't give a fuck.  Which is it?  Immature, or just lacking the neurological features to have the capacity to have empathy for women?   

Shhh buddy it's ok, tssk tssk tssk....

What about a busted face? What you know about about my face? You got a very pretty face I must say. 

What about truckers man? What's wrong with truckers? Why are you talking bad about truckers? What do they have to do with this? 

Why do I only get two options to choose from? 

[Heart of Space]

9 minutes ago, SFRL said:

Shhh buddy it's ok, tssk tssk tssk....

What about a busted face? What you know about about my face? You got a very pretty face I must say. 

What about truckers man? What's wrong with truckers? Why are you talking bad about truckers? What do they have to do with this? 

Why do I only get two options to choose from? 

No, it's not ok.  Your view of dating and women is not ok.  It's unhealthy and it's very representative of the modern males view these days.  It's gross.  

No, you were implying that a vagina is separate to the rest of the female body.  Implying that a female with a busted face still has a slimy warm hole to put your boner in.  

Nothing wrong with truckers.  It was hyperbole.  

Eh, I'm being dramatic cause I have head phones on and am listening to dramatic music and it affects my mood, but the sentiment is still the same.  I was making a point.  Not a very substantive response, dawg.  You're a bit immature in your view of women I gather.  I'd imagine your first real intimate romantic relationship should cure that though don't worry.

 

Edited October 5, 2017 by Heart of Space

[SFRL]

16 minutes ago, Heart of Space said:

No, it's not ok.  Your view of dating and women is not ok.  It's unhealthy and it's very representative of the modern males view these days.  It's gross.  

No, you were implying that a vagina is separate to the rest of the female body.  Implying that a female with a busted face still has a slimy warm hole to put your boner in.  

Nothing wrong with truckers.  It was hyperbole.  

Eh, I'm being dramatic cause I have head phones on and am listening to dramatic music and it affects my mood, but the sentiment is still the same.  I was making a point.  Not a very substantive response, dawg.  You're a bit immature in your view of women I gather.  I'd imagine your first real intimate romantic relationship should cure that though don't worry.

 

Well there you go all is good in the Universe again. 

[Heart of Space]

1 minute ago, SFRL said:

Well there you go all is good in the Universe again. 

Ah, the old I have no intelligent response to you, so I'm going to cop out in a way that makes me look apathetic to your points response.  Love that one.

[LaucherJunge]

@Heart of Space
Sexuality is the strongest force that drives humans. To deny a mans sexual desires for beauty and to pretend as if it doesn't matter is surely not the right way, obviously you don't say things like you are an 8 in a womens face, it is just a tool to make conversation about this subject. The way of romance is not the only way of living, that is for sure even though I am not a fan of this one-night-stand culture and say this as someone who only wants to have sex with women who are a potential partner for a romantic relationship.
I see that this is very common in this forum that people tend to draw conclusions from people who are talking about living in society, just because I talk that way does not mean that it is my natural view on this topic, it merely is an adaptation which makes living in our very unconscious society possible. 
You know how few women there are who would be a potential partner for you if you were just this cave meditator with the most advanced spiritual views practicing them in reality, just holding those views is great but living in society is different, for now atleast.

[Heart of Space]

6 hours ago, LaucherJunge said:

@Heart of Space
Sexuality is the strongest force that drives humans. To deny a mans sexual desires for beauty and to pretend as if it doesn't matter is surely not the right way, obviously you don't say things like you are an 8 in a womens face, it is just a tool to make conversation about this subject. The way of romance is not the only way of living, that is for sure even though I am not a fan of this one-night-stand culture and say this as someone who only wants to have sex with women who are a potential partner for a romantic relationship.
I see that this is very common in this forum that people tend to draw conclusions from people who are talking about living in society, just because I talk that way does not mean that it is my natural view on this topic, it merely is an adaptation which makes living in our very unconscious society possible. 
You know how few women there are who would be a potential partner for you if you were just this cave meditator with the most advanced spiritual views practicing them in reality, just holding those views is great but living in society is different, for now atleast.

No doubt things like beauty and sexuality are strong forces of attraction for men.  No one wants you to repress that.

The problem is that modern culture warps how we think of beauty in females and it also warps how we think about and approach sex in a very negative way.  Beauty standards from media like porn and movies make women feel like they need to look and act like something they are not.  And men are unconsciously conditioned into judging women by these standards.  

Men also tend to have a very physical and genital centric view of sex.  That view of sex is strange because you're viewing another human being as a sort of simple masturbatory tool and that tool's effectiveness is based purely on purely physical features which can be rated with a linear number system.  Modern objectification of women at its finest.  

Natural and healthy sexuality is much different.  Natural attraction is not breaking down the other person by body part in this really specific sort of simplistic judgement of physical attractiveness.  That feeling of attraction to someone is something that happens involuntarily independent of any sort of mental breakdown of a females body.  Attraction just happens on the intuitive level.  People don't know this, which is why you have these phenomenons where gay men often don't know they're gay till much later in life.  Many people don't even understand their own sexuality fully because they don't listen to their bodies intuitive feelings of attraction.  Instead, they falsely use intellectual constructs that they've learned from society and things like pick up culture to inform their sexual behaviors.  

No one is asking you to be Jesus Christ in a cave meditating.  Just to be more aware of how you been conditioned to think about sex and dating in an unhealthy way and maybe learn to rely on your bodies intuitive sexuality.  The body knows what it wants, let it do its thing.  

[LaucherJunge]

3 minutes ago, Heart of Space said:

No doubt things like beauty and sexuality are strong forces of attraction for men.  No one wants you to repress that.

The problem is that modern culture warps how we think of beauty in females and it also warps how we think about and approach sex in a very negative way.  Beauty standards from media like porn and movies make women feel like they need to look and act like something they are not.  And men are unconsciously conditioned into judging women by these standards.  

Men also tend to have a very physical and genital centric view of sex.  That view of sex is strange because you're viewing another human being as a sort of simple masturbatory tool and that tool's effectiveness is based purely on purely physical features which can be rated with a linear number system.  Modern objectification of women at its finest.  

Natural and healthy sexuality is much different.  Natural attraction is not breaking down the other person by body part in this really specific sort of simplistic judgement of physical attractiveness.  That feeling of attraction to someone is something that happens involuntarily independent of any sort of mental breakdown of a females body.  Attraction just happens on the intuitive level.  People don't know this, which is why you have these phenomenons where gay men often don't know they're gay till much later in life.  Many people don't even understand their own sexuality fully because they don't listen to their bodies intuitive feelings of attraction.  Instead, they falsely use intellectual constructs that they've learned from society and things like pick up culture to inform their sexual behaviors.  

No one is asking you to be Jesus Christ in a cave meditating.  Just to be more aware of how you been conditioned to think about sex and dating in an unhealthy way and maybe learn to rely on your bodies intuitive sexuality.  The body knows what it wants, let it do its thing.  

I see what you are saying but this is just another way of objectifying with the difference that you take other dimensions as the scale which our mind can not pot a number on. There is a huge difference between compassion and passion, what they do is passion, what I do is passion, what you do is passion. Compassion is only about giving, it is essentially true love and it gives only freedom nothing else, this is probably only possible with enlightenment. That is pretty much what Osho said on this topic and this is the highest view i ever heard on this in my opinion. So there is no reason for your attitude towards this because you are objectifying yourself. It is very difficult to express this really deep topic but I hope i could show my point to a large enough degree.