Physical And Psychological Death

[caelanb]

Hello, I have a question, what is the difference between a physical death and a psychological death? Because Leo made a video on experiencing physical death with 2C-B, and he also talked with Martin Ball about psychological death with 5-MeO-DMT. Thank you.

[Joseph Maynor]

Ask yourself these -- What is physical death?  What is psychological death?

You have to do some inquiry for yourself.  A theoretical answer will do you no good.

Tell me what you come up with and I will respond to that.

Edited October 1, 2017 by Joseph Maynor

[Nahm]

@caelanb psychological death is the realization of the dream, physical death is the end of the dream. 

[Girzo]

The thing with those deaths is that they are not deaths, beacuse nothing really dies. To illustrate that take a look at your own body. It consists of many individual cells, but you don't experience yourself as a cell, you have transcended that, so the human form that you are can exist. Does that mean the cell has died the moment you realized being a human? No, it's still alive, but you no longer have an direct access to it's perspective. It's the same with the death of a human form and becoming a God.

Death is a death. I think that the distinction between physical and psychological is there to point a difference in how the experience feels in the beggining (you can feel the emotional or physical pain), but ultimately it's the same, because when you're dead... you are dead. I maybe wrong, but that's how I intuit.

[Max_V]

@Nahm ‘The end of the dream’..

For some reason that made me feel really sad for a moment.

[phoenix666]

@Max_V there is a certain sadness to the 'end' of things. it reminds us of transience.

we cling to things, that's why it makes us sad, I guess.

[Highest]

Psychological death in my opinion is experiencing the absolute, something absolutely extreme. My ego death was so powerful that I thought I would never get back to my normal world, ever. But it is the most beautiful and up-lifting thing, but not for everyone. Physical death doesn't exist, the soul is eternal and that is what you truly are and shall be.

[Nahm]

6 hours ago, Max_V said:

@Nahm ‘The end of the dream’..

For some reason that made me feel really sad for a moment.

Then live it. 

[Max_V]

@Nahm So what you are saying here means ‘ Take everything out of life ‘ ?

[Nahm]

@Max_V You are eternal love, dreaming Max_V. 

 If the "end" of the dream makes you feel sad, then you might consider doing what you want, right now. That's why you are. 

[Max_V]

@Nahm If I an am something that is inherently peaceful, then what is sad?

[Nahm]

@Max_V Love is what we are. Then there is what we do; thinking, talking, feeling, etc. So if something is sad, it is your thoughts, not what you are. What you are is perfect. Through meditation, it can be experienced. (And of course, psychedelics are helpful for major glimpses)

As it is not known yet, an analogy might be that you surely at some point have watched a scary movie and been scared. Then when the movie is over, you're like "oh, it was a movie. I'm actually alright".

It's absolutely like that, times infinity.

Edited October 1, 2017 by Nahm

[Max_V]

@Nahm Thank you Nahm. That's really sweet.

[Nahm]

@Mad Max kinda surprised this finally happened, but, ya. I get all my schtick from Final Fantasy. It's been real guys. I'm out. 

[cetus]

26 minutes ago, Captain Flint said:

I thought he died with the help of AL-LAD.

@Captain Flint I guess you did die during your AL-LAD trip. Have you looked in the mirror lately? You reincarnated into a woman!

[caelanb]

1 hour ago, Captain Flint said:

I thought he died with the help of AL-LAD.

 

 

 

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