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Joseph Maynor

Does The Mind Follow You When You Embark On Your Psychedelic Trips

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Mind includes thoughts.

I'm trying to determine if mind is a constant bystander of Being.

What about when you dream?  Is the mind there too?

What about during your ego-death trips?

Can Being ever totally break free from the mind?

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Being human = having a mind

Having a mind does not only include 'having thoughts'.
Thoughts are easy to pinpoint and locate in your experience; "that's a thought" etc. 
It also includes the subtle experience of being a seperate self that by all means has to survive and thrive.
The experience of being 'someone' with a name, a body, a job, a girlfriend, an education, a house etc.

The thing is, that it is "almost impossible" for a 'human being' to discover that being 'a human being' is in fact just an experience -- just like having a thought or having sex is an experience -- and that it is not who you really are.

I say "almost impossible", because it surely is possible to grasp that. The only way it is possible to fully realize this -- i.e. that you in truth are not a human being -- is to fully lose your mind momentarily (ego death), and see that *you* didn't go anywhere, you just had an experience of being nothing/everything. 

After a full-blown ego-death experience you realize that the ego/self is just a mask you put on and then you play the game of human life. It is not who you really are.

So no. Mind is not a constant bystander of Being.

Being/you can break free of mind/ego, yes. 

Question is, how?

Only way I know of is serious meditation or psychedelics. 

It's not something that "you" can do by free will, because you actually believe that you are a self, at least you feel that way, so to break free of mind feels to you to break from yourself, which seems impossible!:)

So in meditation you sit for yourself for hours and hours day after day and at some point the mind stops creating the ego-illusion, and you break from the illusion and have an ego death experience.

With psychdelics these chemicals go into your brain and just shut-down the whole ego-creating mechanism and then you break free from the mind.

With that said, even with psychedelics, you need to be able to let go to get an ego-death experience. If you resist it/fight against the deletion of your mind (which can easily happen, since you probably believe that you are the mind), it's analogous to trying to hold your breath for several minutes, it feels like shit, and you will have a bad trip where you will be stuck in your mind with all kinds of nasty thoughts, like believing that you have gone insane for good.
I have tried both:)
I can thus only recommend that you during a trip try to let go as much as you can and just go with the flow of the experience, accepting whatever happens. Don't try to hold that breath in, let it go; let "yourself" float away and see that what you thought to be yourself is just a concept, and that the real you in reality are beyond concepts:) 
Accept the impermanence of reality.

Edited by WaveInTheOcean

Can you bite your own teeth?  --  “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.

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