The 101 Guide On Psychedelics - Building The Path To Know God!

[Mondsee]

 @Azrael @Leo Gura (Readers: please help me tag any other experienced forum members you know on this thread!)

I was going to post this on the 5-meo mega thread, but I thought this might deserve its own thread and become a little bit of a guide for psychedelics' newbies.

Hi there! So, here's the thing: I first learned about 5-meo-dmt a couple months ago (obviously through this forum + Leo's videos), and proceeded to largely ignore it, as I categorized this as a highly advanced topic, and nothing for me yet. Don't get me wrong, from what I hear, I believe it is pure magic and something I want to try some day, but I just feel too much of a newbie for that, I literally feel like I don't deserve it yet. 

That being said, a couple days ago I was reading some articles on 5-meo on the internet, and some trip reports, when I found out that getting the substance is much, much, much easier for me than I ever imagined. Literally, without even looking for it, I found a way to get to it. Of course I didn't, my feeling of not being ready hasn't changed at all, but now that I know that it isn't so far out from me, I want to know how to start changing that, so I'm asking for your advice.

So, here is where I stand: I am a 22 y/o, and never have I ever in my life tried any substance at all, like AT ALL. I do drink, but I've been drunk only twice, I have never smoke a cigarette, not a shisha, not a vape, no joint no nothing at all, I'm a substances virgin, I think I don't even know how to smoke, because I've never had a cigarette touch my lips haha... on the other hand, I'm a self-help junkie, I put into practice Leo's advice very often, I have practiced yoga for a little over two years, and almost every day since this year started, and I'm trying to meditate every day too, although I backslide every now and then.

Given my newbie standpoint, what would you recommend as a step-by-step process?

My common sense tells me it should be somewhat like this:

1. keep doing yoga and meditating every day for much longer, until you have more significant insights and breakthroughs

2. start doing self-inquiry much more often, or better yet, every day

3. research and learn a ton more on psychedelics

4. learn basic techniques and methods like how to smoke or to snort without using psychedelics yet (if I could avoid smoking cigarettes I'd be very happy, I find them really disgusting)

5. start trying some mild substances on small doses

6. increase gradually the doses (building myself up) until you intuitively get the feeling that you're ready for 5-meo

7. take 5-meo (in gradual doses) and know God!

What do you think? is that more or less ok, or am I (is my ego on self-survival mode) delaying it too much? can you maybe give me some more specific details, like which substances I should try first? How can I learn the administration methods before actually trying the thing? any other advice? Thank you very much!!

P.S. To all the readers: please avoid asking questions on sourcing, I understand it is against the forum's rules, and I'm also not willing to discuss it on any other platform. Thanks

Edited September 22, 2017 by Mondsee
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[Mondsee]

@Captain Flint *her ???

[Be Yourself]

If I were you I would start very small first.

Start very low doses of LSD or mushrooms and slowly build yourself up. The time will come when you know that you're ready for 5-meo.  5-meo is very powerful and if you've never tried any psychedelic before, it can be very terrifying.  Do a lot of research on any psychedelic before you try it.

And of course, keep doing your meditation and self-inquiry practices. 

This video might help too:

 

[krazzer]

@Mondsee just like you I haven't done any drugs until this year.

I started with AL-LAD, 75µg, then 150µg, and last Sunday I did 300µg.

The first two doses didn't do much but then I knew how much I could handle.

5-MeO-DMT kinda scared me too the first time I heard about it, but after the trip i've had, and maybe a few more, I think i'm ready for it.

[cosmicrays]

Reading all that - I can't wait to reach that moment one day where I will try it too

Edited September 22, 2017 by cosmicrays

[Azrael]

23 hours ago, Mondsee said:

Of course I didn't, my feeling of not being ready hasn't changed at all, but now that I know that it isn't so far out from me, I want to know how to start changing that, so I'm asking for your advice.

Well, this is an important topic for everyone who wants to start and has no experiences with drugs in general. When I started out with psychedelics I had a good amount of experiences with altered states of consciousness. I did a lot of weed when I was in my teens and I did molly (MDMA) a couple of times + speed like one time when I was younger. Plus I smoke. So I know how it's like when you take something and suddenly your world beings to shift. Psychedelics still - even for me - were and ARE a big thing every time I do them because they fuck with you on such a deep level and they require so much letting go from your side.

So here is my recommendation for someone who never did drugs and wants to start with psychedelics for personal development / enquiring one's own nature.

1. First substance you should try is weed. Not in a social setting, but just get it, smoke or vape it and see how you take it. While being stoned see how it changes you and see whether you can deal with it. After you have smoked / vaped it a few times, eat it. Eating pot will give you a totally different experience and it'll go in a psychedelic direction if you have good weed. Read on dosages and research it as you please do with every drug you take.
2. If you can stand weed I'd actually recommend to try molly (MDMA) before you do real psychedelics. Again, please read up about dosage, risks etc. Molly is a chemical and can potentially fuck you up. I think it's good to try though because you can a) have stunning insights and experiences if you do it on your own + it'll introduce you to serious chemical substances, how it is to come "on" and "off", how to handle it etc.
3. After having done molly a few times, you can choose your first real psychedelic substance. I haven't done AL-LAD so far, but @Leo Gura speaks highly of it, so it is probably a good choice for starters. Start on low dosages and then work yourself up.

After you have had some real psychedelic breakthrough on the normal substances like AL-LAD, LSD, shrooms, 2-CB you'll know for yourself how ready you are. On the way you'll discover your favourite psychedelic and maybe work with it. I like shrooms a lot and I work a lot with them, other people use other substances. As long as you take your time for this process, research everything that you do and start on low dosages and slowly increase, you can be safe. If you have some physical or mental conditions that can come into your way, you should research whether you should do this at all. In the end of the day though it'll take some big balls, wisdom, courage and trust in yourself to do something like 4g shrooms. You'll not get around that. That's needed for any big change.

I would highly suggest that if you've done all that and you are somewhat experienced in the field with the normal substances, that you try normal DMT before you try 5-MeO-DMT. First of all, normal DMT is heavy enough and secondly it'll introduce you into the "WHAAAAAT THE FUUUUCK"-Land + quick onsets. If you are able to do normal DMT and you have done all the other stuff, are wise and research a lot, you got at least all the measurable requirements that it takes to think about 5-MeO-DMT (at least in my opinion).

And even then ... with all the research and experience ... it'll fucking blow you away like you never would've thought. It's just well-advisable to be able to fly a jet plane before you fly in outer space.

[egoless]

6 minutes ago, Azrael said:

Well, this is an important topic for everyone who wants to start and has no experiences with drugs in general. When I started out with psychedelics I had a good amount of experiences with altered states of consciousness. I did a lot of weed when I was in my teens and I did molly (MDMA) a couple of times + speed like one time when I was younger. Plus I smoke. So I know how it's like when you take something and suddenly your world beings to shift. Psychedelics still - even for me - were and ARE a big thing every time I do them because they fuck with you on such a deep level and they require so much letting go from your side.

So here is my recommendation for someone who never did drugs and wants to start with psychedelics for personal development / enquiring one's own nature.

1. First substance you should try is weed. Not in a social setting, but just get it, smoke or vape it and see how you take it. While being stoned see how it changes you and see whether you can deal with it. After you have smoked / vaped it a few times, eat it. Eating pot will give you a totally different experience and it'll go in a psychedelic direction if you have good weed. Read on dosages and research it as you please do with every drug you take.
2. If you can stand weed I'd actually recommend to try molly (MDMA) before you do real psychedelics. Again, please read up about dosage, risks etc. Molly is a chemical and can potentially fuck you up. I think it's good to try though because you can a) have stunning insights and experiences if you do it on your own + it'll introduce you to serious chemical substances, how it is to come "on" and "off", how to handle it etc.
3. After having done molly a few times, you can choose your first real psychedelic substance. I haven't done AL-LAD so far, but @Leo Gura speaks highly of it, so it is probably a good choice for starters. Start on low dosages and then work yourself up.

After you have had some real psychedelic breakthrough on the normal substances like AL-LAD, LSD, shrooms, 2-CB you'll know for yourself how ready you are. On the way you'll discover your favourite psychedelic and maybe work with it. I like shrooms a lot and I work a lot with them, other people use other substances. As long as you take your time for this process, research everything that you do and start on low dosages and slowly increase, you can be safe. If you have some physical or mental conditions that can come into your way, you should research whether you should do this at all. In the end of the day though it'll take some big balls, wisdom, courage and trust in yourself to do something like 4g shrooms. You'll not get around that. That's needed for any big change.

I would highly suggest that if you've done all that and you are somewhat experienced in the field with the normal substances, that you try normal DMT before you try 5-MeO-DMT. First of all, normal DMT is heavy enough and secondly it'll introduce you into the "WHAAAAAT THE FUUUUCK"-Land + quick onsets. If you are able to do normal DMT and you have done all the other stuff, are wise and research a lot, you got at least all the measurable requirements that it takes to think about 5-MeO-DMT (at least in my opinion).

And even then ... with all the research and experience ... it'll fucking blow you away like you never would've thought. It's just well-advisable to be able to fly a jet plane before you fly in outer space.

Can you tell me which mushroom types are good for starters? Already have some experience with molly and solid experience with weed. So I guess time to move to different meta. I decided to stop fkin around with Enlightenment intellectually and actually start practicing it...

[Azrael]

1 minute ago, egoless said:

Can you tell me which mushroom types are good for starters?

From my own experience with different strands, they are not that different. It's like with weed or alcohol. If you have done it a lot, you'll be able to recognize differences and like certain strains over others. For beginners, I'd say that keeping an eye on dosage is way more important.

[egoless]

11 minutes ago, Azrael said:

From my own experience with different strands, they are not that different. It's like with weed or alcohol. If you have done it a lot, you'll be able to recognize differences and like certain strains over others. For beginners, I'd say that keeping an eye on dosage is way more important.

Is it better to get growing kit and cultivate them yourself or should you search on street? (Again for beginner who has never grown shrooms)

Edited September 23, 2017 by egoless

[Azrael]

18 hours ago, egoless said:

Is it better to get growing kit and cultivate them yourself or should you search on street? (Again for beginner who has never grown shrooms)

Can't talk about business here. Find out for yourself. Re-FUCKING-search.

[egoless]

2 minutes ago, Azrael said:

Can't talk about business here. Find out for yourself. Re-FUCKING-search.

Which psychedelics did you see the most positive Enlightenment effects with?

Edited September 24, 2017 by egoless

[Azrael]

11 hours ago, egoless said:

Which psychedelics did you see the most positive Enlightenment effects with?

It depends. Enlightenment is radical shift on multiple layers. It's like you take a seed and watch it grow. Psychedelics are like fertilizers. They can speed up the process a lot yes, but it takes a lot of other things like intellectual ground work, explorations of your body and physique, understanding relationships to yourself, other people and your reality ... to get everything down. So yes, 5-MeO-DMT especially will bring you the most growth when it comes to enlightenment, but there are way more things involved that you need to be mature in your understanding.