MarinM

4-aco-dmt Unpleasant After Effect - Tightened Belly(help!)

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In case you dont know what 4 aco dmt is - it's basically psilocybin legal alternative. 


It's not my first time taking psychadelics. I've used LSD 4 times, and 4 aco dmt once before but smaller dosage where trip was really easy to surrender to and had really positive impact on me during and after the trip.


This time, kinda different story. I took 27mg of 4 aco dmt with my friends but we went each into seperate rooms to trip alone.
When i took the dose I started dancing to relax myself and just when I got tired it started taking effect really fast. It was strange come up and I was sorta scared in a sense, so I went in my room where I lied on bed with eyes closed and started tripping really intense. I remember I was scared if I will see like some sort of demons attacking me and I was remembering other trip reports where people experienced real torture (not on this psychadelic, but it didn't matter), even tho I'm "9,7/10" positive guy (which means I'm always positive, not necessarily always smiling and being happy and excited but you get the point) and I rarely get depressed (but there are times of course). Few months ago I also got aware that my belly is really often tight in certain situations when I'm suppressing emotions (I realised it when I watched Elliot Hulse talking about how ego uses muscles to suppress emotions) and also it gets tightened even when I don't do anything unusual. I think my belly tightening lasts for years but I haven't noticed until last few months (tho it can easily not be true, I just have a feeling I used it a lot before realization).
Now let's get back to trip:

So, I was really scared of getting scared and that I would scream for help, flipping in bed or something which my ego really can't let me do (really need to work on that point of letting myself out), and even tho nothing scary in my head was happening, the trip was so overwhelming that my body was tightened so much that I couldn't let go. I would find myself in all kinds of poses so tightened in my belly, neck, legs, basically whole body was suppressing the trip. Times were rare where I realized its me tripping (basically 2/3 of the trip I've spent in my head unconscious). Also when I get to know what is happening I couldn't let myself relax all the muscle tension ( I couldn't even try). Somewhere in the middle of the trip there was huge relief (even tho it wasn't really relief for me because I didn't realize what was going on all the time, it basically was just natural to feel that way - still overwhelming but different state) - where i was smiling and fully relaxed on bed with arms and legs spread all over it and I was really happy and shouting something how I'm excited for life and I was like "give it all to me" then it actually gave all of it to me xD and I got back in that muscle tightening again until the end. After trip set down I felt really bombarded and my belly was tightened like 5 times more then it was usually and it's been tightened for 3 full days now, soon 4, and I just can't relax it. It's actually bigger struggle to relax it then to let it be tightened. 

SO, all I'd like to know if any of you had really intense muscle tension (regardless of taking psychadelics or not) and how to deal with it overall. I was denying my belly all these months because I didn't feel it was really that urgent to deal with it and I thought it will eventually come off as I get more confident and more self loving since then I won't have to suppress emotions. (ALSO, on the side note, when I suppress emotions with my belly I don't actually even know what I suppressed, I just realize I'm suppressing something and I don't feel guilt or anything in my head, even tho sometimes when I get really uncomfortable I know it's that shame I'm suppressing but I just continue normally after that).


P.S. sorry for my terrible writing skills, my english isn't that good and I hope you understand and I hope I didn't bore you too much reading all this text :P but it's my first time posting my problems online and I'd also like to meet some cool new people here if that's how forums roll :D 

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You seem to have a good awareness of your emotional/ psychological state...I honestly don't know a "cure" off hand...I actually would have expected that your adventure would have been more helpful, than harmful in terms of releasing these things...somethings to try ( I am the opposite of an expert though): delving into the emotions/ truly experiencing, breathing into the tension, intentionally tensing to the max - then releasing all tension...hypnosis or guided meditations for relaxation, etc...ultimate wishes!

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@MarinM Sounds like you've got a lot of repressed emotions in your body. Just continue with the work and they should slowly work themselves out.

You might benefit a lot from getting some deep-tissue massage work and/or Reiki.

Yoga asanas and Reichian therapy might also work well for you.


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I don't have any advice other than what has already been suggested, however I suggest in the future you trip ALONE, as in nobody else in the house.  I noticed some of your anxiety came from not wanting the people in the other rooms to hear you.  In other words, your setting was not good.  Set and setting are perhaps THE MOST IMPORTANT PART of the whole thing.  You need to feel comfortable enough to scream if you want and not worry about anybody hearing you.  

It's better to not trip at all rather than trip in sub-optimal conditions.  If you need a trip sitter, it should be one person that you will not be embarrassed to freak out in front of.

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Thank you all for your support, I will definitely consider the recommendations. Cheers! :D

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YogaYogaYoga! I'm pretty sure you could benefit from it!


"Es gibt die Wahrheit, mein Lieber! Aber die ,Lehre', die du begehrst [...], die gibt es nicht. Du sollst dich auch gar nicht nach einer vollkommenen Lehre sehnen, Freund, sondern nach Vervollkommnung deiner selbst."

- Herman Hesse, Das Glasperlenspiel

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@Mondsee I did LSD yesterday and felt like I need to watch yoga tutorial online and I did the whole process and oh man the feels I got. Just WOW, my back were full straight, head up, shoulders back and I felt amazing. Went out for a walk, 0 anxiety, felt like anything can happen and it won't matter, feel of freedom (to a degree tho, but I felt it like never before). Don't know if everything was yoga but feel was great. I'm planning to learn yoga asap. Cheers!!

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