I Love Being You :)

[Barna]

The awareness that you are is the same awareness that everybody else is. "Your" awareness is not separated from the awareness of other people. Bodies don't separate awareness into smaller fractions. The awareness that you are is all that exists right now. 

Let me explain it in another way. Everybody you ever encounter is your past or future self. Did you get it? You are aware of everything in existence, but you're experiencing it as if you were living one life after another. 

The statement "I love you" has a deeper meaning than how most people use it.
"I love you" means "I know that you are the same being as I am and I love to experience life from your body and from your perspective. I love being you."  

It's easy to say to a beggar "I love you", but try to say to them (in your mind) "I love being you", and notice all the resistance arising in you from the fear of becoming someone "less than you".  

[Nahm]

@Barna great stuff. However, there is no past or future. I am you right now, you are me right now. I do love being you, and me. 

[Franz]

Agreed man, I get it. Much love. 

[Barna]

3 hours ago, Nahm said:

@Barna great stuff. However, there is no past or future. I am you right now, you are me right now. I do love being you, and me. 

You are right. However, the moment you say  "there is no time" you are killing every conversation. First,  because nobody understands what that means. Second, because human thinking is based on the concept of time.

Time doesn't exist because everything is right now from my perspective. But if everything is right now from everybody else's perspective as well, and I am everybody else, then this all only makes sense to the human mind if I time travel to be in the same moments with my past lives.  

[Nahm]

@Barna that's conflation and assumption.   

[Barna]

@Nahm I like your criticism. I'm interested, what do you mean when you say that time doesn't exist? And how do you comprehend the experience of oneness?  

[Nahm]

@Barna I didn't intent for it to be criticism. It did sound that way in hindsight. I feel like we're all on the same team here. Being path-interested at the least. "Seekers'.           Time is part of the illusion. You're not experiencing it right now, that's just a thought you're experiencing,  and you are asking me to explain that it doesn't exist? Contemplate I guess. Try to realize it's a thought, not something you are aware of. I can't convince anyone that something doesn't exist if they hold the believe that it does. That's impossible. 

[Max_V]

@Barna Time is an illusion. Why? Because it is impossible to do something in the future or the past. You are always doing it now. 

Think about it. Even doctor who failed , he went back in time but when was he doing that? He was doing it NOW

Edited September 11, 2017 by Max_V

[Naturalist]

In Mother Nature, there are becoming processes and time is merely a tool to quantify it.  When the becoming process ceases, the time would cease as well – thus the absence of time stream (past, present and future). 

The principle in effect: -

Time is an expression that becoming process exists,

Becoming process is not an expression that time exists.

Time is something that is created; not born - a non-natural existence.  Time is an indicator for event; just like length, width and height are indicators for size and volume.  All these indicators belong to a category named as dimension.  In other words, dimension is created for the task of measurement per se and therefore, not something that arises out naturally.  Also, time is a scalar factor.  A scalar refers to a quantity or phenomenon that exhibits magnitude only, with no specific direction.  Any interval of time is also scalar - it has magnitude only.

In fact, this becoming process is the main reason for all the things that we observe right here, right now.  When there is a becoming process, there is a changing process.  The changing process would then conjure up an ability of sorts that is known as ‘energy.’  Therefore, energy is something that has always been in existence and remaining as a constant - as per the Law of Conservation of Energy.  In a way, we could describe energy as nothing but mere vibration.  When there are opposing forces, there would be vibration.  The alternate movement of the opposing forces would generate a continuum of wavy pattern oscillating up and down.  This is the main reason for all the repeating cycle of rising and falling activities that one could witness in Mother Nature.  In other words, by understanding well and observing thoroughly into the characteristics of energy, one could gain insight into Mother Nature and its orientation. 

On another aspect, everything does exist at the same time under present-dynamism only.  The projectile movement of time as often experienced by our mind consciousness is purely due to relativity that is arising out of the varying vibrational frequencies.  As a result, we tend to perceive things a little bit linearly, thus creating the delusion of past, present and future movement of time.  The conventional time that we involve ourselves with every day is a subjective cum relative time.  This means the time orientation is dependent on the observer (i.e. the subject’s mind) to provide the valuation on the other side of the object or matter.  As a consequence, the time conclusion varies among different observers or minds.   

In fact, Albert Einstein has given out an interpretation of spacetime that is actually the endless evolving frequency cum becoming process in Mother Nature.  We could liken the frequency to space and the becoming process to time because time is actually a dimension (indicator) for the becoming process and space is merely an expression for energy in play as per frequency (i.e. the number of occurrences or observations within a given time period or statistical category).

Present-dynamism  =  frequency x becoming (space x time)

Once again, time would always arise at the present state of condition.  There is no backward or forward movement of time but just a regenerating of occurrences all the time at a common pace of spacetime or present-dynamism.  This means in the twinkling of an eye, all events or phenomena as observed by our mind consciousness would fluctuate and renew simultaneously and continuously.  Just like the gravity effects on earth for all different masses are the same (acceleration value, g = 9.80 m/s2) even though the rock strikes the ground before the feather per se.  However, the common pace of spacetime or present-dynamism is unconjecturable and it is mainly due to its nature of beginning-less and end-less. 

For example, despite the vast differences in the cultural development, the time zone and the locality, a Bushman in Africa and a modern businessman in America are both living concurrently in the 21st century under a common pace of spacetime or present-dynamism.  Literally, we could not discriminate or differentiate them by saying that the Bushman is from the past time and the modern businessman is a person living in the future time.  The distinguishing factor among them and their respective surroundings is merely their variable vibrational frequencies. 

In fact, the circumstances of duality or multiplicity as observed by our mind consciousness would be an obvious indication of all fluctuating vibrational frequencies arising in the cosmos.  This is because everything in the material Universe is made up of energy.  Atoms and molecules are made up of energy.  Our bodies, our clothes, our cars, our houses are all made up of energy but what makes them different is their vibration.  Energy is always vibrating at a different frequency under the influence of conditional phenomena.  Everything has its own vibrational frequency – our thoughts, our feelings, the rock, the table, the car, the animal, the plant, the tree, etc.  Even colours are merely expressions of certain vibrational frequencies. 

In addition, the fluctuating vibrational frequencies amongst different subjects and matters would bring about variances in terms of the relative timeline.  Under a common pace of spacetime or present-dynamism, a higher vibrational frequency would yield a slower becoming process and vice versa. 

The principle-in-effect: -

When the vibrational frequency accelerating, the becoming process decelerates,

When the vibrational frequency decelerating, the becoming process accelerates.

By nature, everything is a matrix of everything.  If we were to examine into Mother Nature intently, our mind would discover that everything is interconnected and balanced under the universal laws of conservation.  Basically, all the workings of the universal scientific laws and equations would fall within the principle of Absence, Balance and Constant (ABC).  For instance,

E = mc2 or E - mc2 = 0 or mc2 - E = 0

A = B or A - B = 0 or B - A = 0

The circumstances of duality or multiplicity in all things would always exist in the dependent nature.  Conventionally, there is a beginning and an ending of all things or matters i.e. when there is a rising, there will be a falling or vice versa.  The complementary but opposing forces would interact to form a whole greater than either separate part; thus bringing forth a dynamic system existing in harmony.  In other words, there’s no two ways about it i.e. one factor is always being balanced off with another factor, without exception.  This conclusion would bring us to an understanding that Mother Nature is functioning in a feature that is constant – a situation that does not change i.e. the characteristic of an inherent existence.  Therefore, we could mention that Mother Nature is a system that is universal i.e. it is inherent existing and dependent arising concurrently. 

Once again, time is a dimension because it is a scale of measurement created for gauging the events.  Therefore, time could not be self-sustainable and has no entity.  For one to reflect time as an entity is a point of view based on delusion, just like the misconception of self-entity in beings.  When there is no becoming process, there is no time.  So time does not exist in a non-dependent phenomenon.

 

 

 

[Barna]

12 hours ago, Naturalist said:

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