Already !

[Shin]

I don't know how to put it better, so I'll just leave this here ...

 

 

[Max_V]

Yes I am at this part of the course right now. Really powerful lesson I must say.

Going to read it for the third time tomorrow before proceeding to the next lesson.

[Dodo]

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People seem to continue to believe for many years (even decades) into their practice of mindfulness and the like, that it is about imitating the present moment with one’s conscious attention; that it is about remaining in, or somehow maintaining, the Now and having few, if any, thoughts anymore.

This belief and conduct leads to what I call suppression by stillness. At best, it trains the mind to be quiet, which seems nice, but can induce a state of pseudo-enlightenment and leave one immobilized in many areas of life.

We don’t want a quiet mind; we want clarity bursting with aliveness. At least I do, but I think you do too.

 

From Bentinho's course - I've definitely gone a bit too far silencing my mind  I'm busted. I feel like a veggie now lying on the bed all day staring at the walls. I do get some pretty sick visuals without drugs tho!  

[Shin]

Yes, being in the present moment and having a calm mind is very different.

In the first scenario you will be ok no matter what, in the second, once your mind starts to become crazy again, you will think you've "lost" it ...

[Max_V]

@Shin are you able to do the recognition exercise 12 times a day? I tend to forget, so I get up to 7 times mostly

[Shin]

8 minutes ago, Max_V said:

@Shin are you able to do the recognition exercise 12 times a day? I tend to forget, so I get up to 7 times mostly

I'm "doing" it all the time now, I couldn't stop doing it even if I wanted to

@Max_V To me it took 3/4 months of 2/3 hours a meditation a day +  1 to 2 hours of walking meditation

Edited August 27, 2017 by Shin

[Max_V]

2 minutes ago, Shin said:

I'm "doing" it all the time now, I couldn't stop doing it even if I wanted to

Wow, that's a stage to be at. What does it take  ?

[Shin]

2 hours ago, Max_V said:

Wow, that's a stage to be at. What does it take  ?

The funny thing is that you're already there.

You're inconscious that you're conscious, it's so stupid

[Dodo]

4 hours ago, Shin said:

Yes, being in the present moment and having a calm mind is very different.

In the first scenario you will be ok no matter what, in the second, once your mind starts to become crazy again, you will think you've "lost" it ...

When I experience extremely shitty feeling sensations like continuous tiredness (depression) / anger etc etc, it feels like grace is lost. In such moments, I do recognise I am awareness aware of these, but still that doesn't stop them being shitty and ME, awareness wanting to get rid of them. Or me Ego. I guess you'll say it's Ego right, cause I'm just bullshitting myself and think I know what awareness is...

I'm a bit upset at the existence of those sensations if I am supposed to be God and the creator of my reality. Feels like I'm a dumb ass God (which checks out if we take that I am currently the yet unconscious creator of my reality, until enlightenment, perhaps I am a headless chicken God) .

Edited August 27, 2017 by Dodo

[Max_V]

To Existence/Presence/Beingness, there are no obstacles or problems. There is only ever more of itself.  

-Bentinho Massaro