Are Trolls Real?

[Joseph Maynor]

31 minutes ago, see_on_see said:

Don't ever regret that, it was totally eye opening for many. And I mean in the end the people that wanna debate are always gonna find an excuse to do so, whether it's psychedelics, the paranormal, enlightenment or something else. But they're just a part of your audience, many others have benefited greatly from your talks on psychedelics etc, you just don't hear from them as strongly.

These threads always go the same way:

1. Leo posts some weird shit
2. people stuck in naive realist paradigm get triggered
3. debate on nature of reality/non-duality ensues; everyone else that was interested in the original topic just leaves

The same exact thing happened with the law of one thread and other threads.

Although perhaps the goal of the thread was also to provoke this type of reaction. But the thing is I'm afraid the people that wanna debate are never gonna wake up by further debating, they will just keep going on and on until the debate ends and another one starts somewhere else. And the only people that remain in the discussion are always the ones that got triggered by the topic, and everyone else just leaves. Sort of a catch-22.

Now you get to feel right.  That's what everyone else is doing too -- trying to feel right.  The ego is all around us.  We all got a bit of it in us.  Look closely.  You don't have any evidence that anyone left, you just made that up.  Let's be careful about not elevating ourselves on a high-horse without good cause.  We all suffer from ego.  We should be compassionate not accusatory towards each other.  None of gets to be the righteous one.  That tack rubs me the wrong way because it is disingenuous.  I also don't think Leo gets to be the arbiter of who is enlightened or not.  That's a little bit pretentious assuming his *judgment* was not made tongue in cheek.  Humility is a nice virtue to cultivate especially with enlightenment.  The last thing you want to have is your ego wrapped up in enlightenment. That would be a really bad problem.  Like trying to diet while eating chocolate-covered bacon.

Edited August 20, 2017 by Joseph Maynor

[electroBeam]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I'm starting to regret telling you about psychedelics because it just makes you skeptical of me.

And its a good thing that people are skeptical of you. It would be terrible if we all just believed you as gospel, because then you wouldn't be raising high consciousness people in the first place. 

[Brivido]

On 19/8/2017 at 6:12 AM, Leo Gura said:

There is no standard by which to say that something is real or unreal.

[Leo Gura]

Gonna lock this one, since I think we've beaten this dead horse long enough.