The White Belt

Gross And Subtle Mind

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Hey everyone! 

I was going to ask what the differences are, and examples of the Gross and Subtle minds, but I thought

it would be better to give examples of what I think the differences are, and perhaps you guys can tell me

if i'm wrong, or add to it if I'm right. 

Gross mind 

Constantly chases cheap, novel experiences and always needs stimulation

E.G: 

  • Always needs stimulating via technology (Television, internet, etc.) 
  • Works too much
  • Parties too much
  • Drinks too much
  • Involves in gossip a lot
  • Feeds of drama
  • Isn't very present
  • Eats unhealthy foods
  • Chooses instagram posts over first-hand experience of beautiful moment
  • Needs to listen to music always over hearing the natural sounds coming in
  • Needs constant sexual stimulation (Strip clubs, porn, chasing girls in nightclubs etc.)
  • Blocks emotions (totally out of touch with them)
  • A lot more monkey chatter

 

Subtle mind 

Can appreciate and soak in deeper beauty, sensitive to all going in

  • Needs little or nothing to enjoy this moment
  • Sees the beauty in a lot small things
  • Don't want to get to 'there' from here as much
  • Chooses reading over youtube, and general internet time-wasting 
  • Likes to walk in nature
  • Doesn't gossip so much and avoids drama where possible
  • Eats healthy foods mindfully 
  • Need for relationships isn't so strong 
  • Fully feels and is attuned to own emotions 
  • Wants to experience things fully for themselves without needing to show people on Instagram
  • A lot less monkey chatter 

 

Are these valid examples? 

Would you like to add any big ones? 

 


“In the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert’s there are few” 
― Shunryu Suzuki

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@The White Belt  imo. Most people are a combination of the two. There's always a gray in everyone.


  1. Only ONE path is true. Rest is noise
  2. God is beauty, rest is Ugly 

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Gross mind.

  • Needing validation 
  • Procrastination  
  • Studies too much (or anything else too much)

P.S Why gossip/drink at all?

 

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@Spiral I just mean the subtler the mind the less of it. Somebody who has totally crossed the bridge into subtle mind wouldn't bother at all. 


“In the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert’s there are few” 
― Shunryu Suzuki

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