Do You Think It's Bad Advice When People Say Don't Seek Enlightenment

[Joseph Maynor]

Just wondering.

[Shanmugam]

It depends on the level of person who receives the advice and how he understands what is being said...

'Seek enlightenment' is said for people who is seeking everything else other than enlightenment. They desire to have a car, a house etc for fulfillment.Once should at some point in life realize that finding satisfaction in the objects is unending and futile and instead seek enlightenment. In fact, a strong desire for enlightenment is regarded as one of the main qualifications for a disciple. It is called 'mumukshatva' or 'jijnasa'...(one of the four fold qualifications)

But at one point in the journey, long after one becomes a disciple, he has to realize that seeking itself is the cause of suffering, including seeking enlightenment. Desire for the enlightenment than becomes the last trap. He has to even stop that desire and fully surrender to the existence. Because any seeking, no matter whatever the goal is, is moving away from your true nature. He has to realize finally that he is already what he is seeking.

 

[Ananta]

If you have a burning desire for liberation (freedom) it doesn't matter what anyone advises you to do. You will continue to seek, until you no longer need to. You decide when that is, not someone else.

[Joseph Maynor]

@Anna1 I no longer need to seek.  But to get to this point I did seek heavily, as you and everyone on here is aware of.  Heavy seeking on here for 1 month.  But before I came on here I was having enlightenment experiences without realizing it as such for about 1 year.  What happened to your picture?

Edited July 19, 2017 by Joseph Maynor

[Ananta]

51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

@Anna1 I no longer need to seek.

Ok 

No longer seeking, for me, was when I realized/apprehended without a shadow of a doubt that "I AM awareness" and not the body/mind. So, from there, there's a deepening ... and an assimilation process that has continued... (Vedanta has really helped with this), but seeking has stopped. It took 8 years to get to this point.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Anna1

[Ananta]

11 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What happened to your picture?

Welp, got a creepy PM, so decided not to go with my real pic anymore on this forum...lol

[Ananta]

41 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

But before I came on here I was having enlightenment experiences without realizing it as such for about 1 year.  

Do you want to talk about any them? I'm curious as to you saying you didn't realize them as such?

[Heart of Space]

It's not very good advice, because many people including myself need to seek to get initially motivated.  I wasn't seeking it before in my life and it wasn't exactly getting me enlightened.  

12 hours ago, Anna1 said:

Welp, got a creepy PM, so decided not to go with my real pic anymore on this forum...lol

Hey babe, you haven't been answering my PM's lately, is something wrong?  

[Ananta]

12 hours ago, Heart of Space said:

Hey babe, you haven't been answering my PM's lately, is something wrong?

Lol! ... wasn't you, but that was funny!

Edited July 20, 2017 by Anna1