Subtractional Meditation

[Samuel Garcia]

People were handing out flyers for meditation. So I went to the intro class.  I met a man who explained to me something called Subtractional Meditation. As you remove each aspect of the mind, your mind eventually becomes an empty space and you stop living the world in your mind -- see the image below which he explained through what happens as one progresses by doing the meditation. You see the world as it is. In other words enlightenment although he didn't use that word until I asked him if he were enlightened and he said yes. He said all things which sounded familiar and he seemed like a happy guy.

He said the organisation has 300 centres globally including a retreat in South Korea. He also claimed 5000 people last year reached the stage of completion (ie 5000 people became enlightened through the organisation). Furthermore he claimed one could reach this point within 1 year since humanity's consciousness is a lot more advanced than before. Quite a claim.

 @Revolutionary Think came across this too. How did you find it? The man wanted me to join for a month for £70 (about $56 in the US). I was tempted because he claimed he was enlightened and got quick results. But I was suspicions as he wasn't telling me how the process goes. Eventually he said it was guided meditation. He kept trying to persuade me and go another women to talk to me about it too. But I wanted to do my research.

It turns out this is linked to Maum meditation from search I did online which is apparently a cult. The centre I went to (which was actually a house) didn't use the name Maum but they talked about the founder Woo Myung. He has a few books: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Everlasting-World-Happiness-Forever/dp/0984912401/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499358030&sr=8-2&keywords=woo+myung

Has any of you heard about subtractional meditation? Should I give it a go or is this something dangerous? A lot of people say its dangerous out there if you do your research. Best to stay cautious.  https://truthfreedom284.wordpress.com/

Edited July 6, 2017 by Samuel Garcia

[Revolutionary Think]

Well it all started for me at the gym. They were Maum/subtraction meditation people there then they talked about enlightenment like the way Leo Gura talked about it. I thought to myself wow this sounds like all the stuff I'm learning about enlightenment and meditation from Leo Gura so I trusted them. Then when I went to their facility I thought I was going to meditate with other people but, that wasn't the case. They brought me some tea and showed me a video of their main center. Then the talked about the whole point of existence is throwing away your fake picture world and becoming one with the universe. Then they asked for $150. I thought to myself the things they were saying about not existing was kinda like the same thing Leo was saying. I told them I didn't have the $150 and I could give them the $50 now and the $100 later. 

Then I looked them up online and saw all their negative reviews and I emailed the reviews to the center and the guy there told me that those people are angry people that really didn't "understand" the meditation. So I told him that when I reach level 2 if all that stuff that is in level one is going to be gone for good and he said yes but, I had to be diligent and come there everyday. So I came there everyday and what basically happened was really annoying. They put a black hole in front of me, told me a story about me dying and becoming a ghost then staring at that black hole and throwing away all my memories by repeating the words please truth eliminate the false. It's very hard to come up with all the images you had since childhood and throw them away. Every single time the "guide" would come in the room and ask what age I was on... then he would say OK good keep throwing away. Then when I finished all my ages they count that as one cycle and tell you to start from the beginning. All and all it was extremely boring. As diligent as I was I didn't reach level 2 and they wanted the other payment for the other month. That's when I told them if I don't feel anything I'm not paying another dime. Then I told the guide if he had rich friends in South Korea who are enlightened and went through this why they couldn't pay for my meditation because enlightened people don't exactly need riches and they can help other people out. He gave me some dumb answer of how their was no such thing as a free lunch.

Whether the meditation works 100% or not I don't know but, what I do know is that all the people in the center only could talk about the meditation and had nothing else going on in their lives except the meditation. Before I meditated they always made me recite a poem. I also didn't like their secretive attitudes of not disclosing what the other levels of meditation were until you got there. I asked @Leo Gura about it and he couldn't tell me if they were 100% legit or not. @Samuel Garcia you can try it at your own discretion and they asked for way less money from you than they did of me. I on the other hand feel a bit scammed but, I'm not 100% sure because I didn't reach "level 2"

[Samuel Garcia]

@Revolutionary Think Yep, they are very secretive with the method -- there's a lot more they are hiding I suspect too. I think I'll give it a pass. Thanks the the post.