Why Is That I Am Shivering

[John Iverson]

I meditated now it is 4th time i meditated for today and i'm shakinggggggg why is that? Is it normal? My hands is shaking , my face , more on upper part of my body is shaking...

[Visitor]

This reminds me of fearing what may surface into consciousness. If so, don't worry about it, it is only stuff you already know about.

Or perhaps your body (and/or your ego) is not used to you being still for so long and is trying to get you stop.

See what happens tomorrow, or whenever you meditate after today. It may not re-occur.

[John Iverson]

2 minutes ago, Outer said:

Meditate 4 times a day? Sit for one hours sits and work it out, but you need to follow a proper guide like TMI imo.

Haha we have semestral break, for 2 months i have nothing to do.. so this is my 11th day , hm? This is the 3rd day? Maybe? After i woke up i meditate until such time that i will sleep in evening...  i wait till my feelings to sleep kicks in.. haha I don't have nothing to do i drop everything... I don't feel like going outside and mingling people , i just sit and grasping the reality sensed it all day long but ofcourse if my body wants to stop i stop.. but now my body is shaking... i'm bursting my body wants to do something that worth the energy do but I don't know i'm blank... I don't know yet my nature, nature of capable of doing something .. i practiced leo's be at the moment... being , and breathing ... i combined it together..

[Prabhaker]

@John Iverson

     You can go into meditation just by sitting, but then be just sitting; do not do anything else. If you can be just sitting, it becomes meditation. Be completely in the sitting; nonmovement should be your only movement. In fact, the word Zen comes from the word zazen, which means, just sitting, doing nothing. If you can just sit, doing nothing with your body and nothing with your mind, it becomes meditation; but it is difficult. 

     You can sit very easily when you are doing something else but the moment you are just sitting and doing nothing, it becomes a problem. Every fiber of the body begins to move inside; every vein, every muscle, begins to move. You will begin to feel a subtle trembling; you will be aware of many points in the body of which you have never been aware before. And the more you try to just sit, the more movement you will feel inside you. So sitting can be used only if you have done other things first.

     You can just walk, that is easier. You can just dance, that is even easier. And after you have been doing other things that are easier, then you can sit. Sitting in a buddha posture is the last thing to do really; it should never be done in the beginning. Only after you have begun to feel identified totally with movement can you begin to feel totally identified with nonmovement.

      So I never tell people to begin with just sitting. Begin from where beginning is easy, otherwise you will begin to feel many things unnecessarily ¯ things that are not there. 

     If you begin with sitting, you will feel much disturbance inside. The more you try to just sit, the more disturbance will be felt; you will become aware only of your insane mind and nothing else. It will create depression, you will feel frustrated. You will not feel blissful; rather, you will begin to feel that you are insane. And sometimes you may really go insane.

     If you make a sincere effort to 'just sit,' you may really go insane. Only because people do not really try sincerely does insanity not happen more often. With a sitting posture you begin to know so much madness inside you that if you are sincere and continue it, you may really go insane. It has happened before, so many times; so I never suggest anything that can create frustration, depression, sadness ¯ anything that will allow you to be too aware of your insanity. You may not be ready to be aware of all the insanity that is inside you; you must be allowed to get to know certain things gradually. Knowledge is not always good; it must unfold itself slowly as your capacity to absorb it grows.

     I begin with your insanity, not with a sitting posture; I allow your insanity. If you dance madly, the opposite happens within you. With a mad dance, you begin to be aware of a silent point within you; with sitting silently, you begin to be aware of madness. The opposite is always the point of awareness. With your dancing madly, chaotically, with crying, with chaotic breathing, I allow your madness. Then you begin to be aware of a subtle point, a deep point inside you that is silent and still, in contrast to the madness on the periphery. You will feel very blissful; at your center there is an inner silence. But if you are just sitting, then the inner one is the mad one; you are silent on the outside, but inside you are mad.

     If you begin with something active ¯ something positive, alive, moving ¯ it will be better; then you will begin to feel an inner stillness growing. The more it grows, the more it will be possible for you to use a sitting posture or a lying posture ¯ the more silent meditation will be possible. But by then things will be different, totally different.

    A meditation technique that begins with movement, action, helps you in other ways, also. It becomes a catharsis. When you are just sitting, you are frustrated; your mind wants to move and you are just sitting. Every muscle turns, every nerve turns. You are trying to force something upon yourself that is not natural for you; then you have divided yourself into the one who is forcing and the one who is being forced. And really, the part that is being forced and suppressed is the more authentic part; it is a more major part of your mind than the part that is suppressing, and the major part is bound to win.

Osho, Meditation: The Art of Ecstasy , Talk #5

[John Iverson]

 

1 hour ago, blazed said:

Never had shivers while meditating even when starting out, unless I was naked and cold lol.

The only bizarre feeling i get it is an immense pressure in my head, which I release as soon i'm aware of it then I get all high for a few seconds like if i took some subtle drugs, maybe its a slight bit of DMT released by the brain I don't know, and i don't care.

I don't know what's this but Prabhaker has a explaination to this... this is the 11th day but this is the 3rd day I'm meditating all day long until i go to sleep.. it is very painful to do this and until evening i try to meditate my body is so hurt inside.. may arms hands and face and legs until foot.. it is painful.. I'm like leaf now.. i cant stand still it made me jelly

[ajasatya]

21 minutes ago, John Iverson said:

I don't know what's this but Prabhaker has a explaination to this... this is the 11th day but this is the 3rd day I'm meditating all day long until i go to sleep.. it is very painful to do this and until evening i try to meditate my body is so hurt inside.. may arms hands and face and legs until foot.. it is painful.. I'm like leaf now.. i cant stand still it made me jelly

are you resisting a lot of temptations? how was your life?

subjecting yourself to such a hard meditative program when coming from a life immersed in bad habits and addictions can be harmful. and consistency is more important than diving too deep in a rhythm that hurts you.

take your time. walk around. go to a park and contemplate it with a relaxed body.

sitting meditation is not the only tool. use everything you can.

[John Iverson]

28 minutes ago, ajasatya said:

are you resisting a lot of temptations? how was your life?

subjecting yourself to such a hard meditative program when coming from a life immersed in bad habits and addictions can be harmful. and consistency is more important than diving too deep in a rhythm that hurts you.

take your time. walk around. go to a park and contemplate it with a relaxed body.

sitting meditation is not the only tool. use everything you can.

I will, hm? I don't have something i am addicting to.. before i am needy but I conquered it already I don't have temptations , i just sit entire day and meditate if my body wants a break then i will rest.. 3 days i do it 6 am i will meditate until 9 am.. my break time is practicing being i will go outside and look at the sky and feel the air.. but today it gets too painful.. 

[ajasatya]

45 minutes ago, John Iverson said:

I will, hm? I don't have something i am addicting to.. before i am needy but I conquered it already I don't have temptations , i just sit entire day and meditate if my body wants a break then i will rest.. 3 days i do it 6 am i will meditate until 9 am.. my break time is practicing being i will go outside and look at the sky and feel the air.. but today it gets too painful.. 

how is your physical health? do you eat healthily? do you practice exercises?