Dizzy

Hallucinations

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On June 8, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Dizzy said:

So I have been experiencing hallucinations. Sober hallucinations. It isn't anything scary or bad to the point of what my eyes can see, but usually comes with negative energy, which are never fun, but luckily I learned how to deal with it.

... Does it mean I am starting to perceive reality as it's ? 

Perhaps you are tuning into new areas of consciousness you've never noticed before. For example: when you've heard a song 100s of times but you get a new hi-fi radio and can now be aware of new beats in the background of the song -- It's not necessarily that you're hallucinating new aspects to the song, but seeing things you never knew to look for. Give it time to get used to these new hi-fi sensations you have.

On June 8, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Dizzy said:

Anyone else experiencing sober hallucinations?  

Do more research and you will see people like Dr. Martin W. Ball and many others have had such experiences and not been "schizophrenic" or "crazy" but accessing new mental areas. 

Hallucinations in general have two perspectives.

1. The materialist (aka our current society's) perspective is that you're experiencing something unreal. According to this perspective, if everyone can't see it, then it must not be real. Additionally, this perspective argues that since what you're seeing is "unreal", something must be wrong with you.

And because the materialist perspective argues that the brain creates consciousness, they deem that something is wrong with your brain. 

Which is admittedly scary

... if you are someone who is attached to society...

... which we all are to some degree. 

But it doesn't have to be that way. 

2. The idealist perspective (aka as put forth Bernardo Kastrup and Actualized.org) is that:

  1. since you are having a subjective experience,
  2. and subjective experience is the only objectively real experience,
  3. then you are experiencing something objectively real.

Additionally, this perspective implies "hallucinations" are simply things that are not noticed/agreed upon by other observers, which might speak more about them than it does about you.

It is easier for society as a whole to dismiss the unusual perspective by calling it "crazy" and moving on with the day. This way, the crowd is kept focused on the majority/intellectual elite.

Building from the hi-fi radio analogy, perhaps you are tuning into aspects of consciousness that others simply do not have the awareness to tune into. 

Frankly, the healthier perspective is the idealist perspective, although society doesn't necessarily agree with it. 

Not only does the idealist perspective solve many problems regarding the mind-brain problem, it will also help when coming face to face with brand new mystic experiences that have a wtf factor to them. The simple fact of the matter is that if you get far enough ahead in consciousness work, you will tune into something different than the rest of society -- that's kind of the entire point. 

Additionally, your specific new "hallucinative" perspective may be necessary for seeing new patterns in the world. There is a reason why even early in his career, Leo made a whole video called "Success & Creativity - Why You Should Be More Schizophrenic".

Overall, one thing to not get too concerned about is whether something is "wrong" with you. Schizophrenia, which is what you'd be concerned with if you were concerned about hallucinations, is particularly fraught with contentious ideas and dubious assumptions.  

You might be "different" with the "hallucinations", but nothing is "wrong" unless you find that it is wrong. 

Mental Illness only occurs when something mental is actively preventing you from achieving the life you want (or society wants for you.) Which is funny because according this definition, basically everyone is mentally ill no matter what -- it's damned if you do damned if you don't.

But If it is indeed that these visions genuinely impede you and others notice symptoms such as stuttered, nonsensical talk, then sure, talk to a medical professional. Be warned however, because the diagnosis for schizophrenia is fraught with issues. In one study, for example, "an offended hospital administration challenged [a researcher named Rosehan] to send pseudopatients to its facility, whom its staff would then detect. Rosenhan agreed and in the following weeks out of 193 new patients the staff identified 41 as potential pseudopatients, with 19 of these receiving suspicion from at least one psychiatrist and one other staff member. In fact, Rosenhan had sent no pseudopatients to the hospital."

So if it doesn't impede you, then don't get stuck on the "am I crazy" thought loop too much and continue with your work :D

Edited by TJ Reeves

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@TJ Reeves Wow, thank you for this! 

On 6/8/2017 at 7:38 PM, Dizzy said:

Anyone else experiencing sober hallucinations? 

@Dizzy After reading TJ's post there it seems I'm experiencing this as well.  

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@TJ Reeves Thank you very much for your insights :) You pretty much put out what I mostly understand about it. In a way, it's comforting to hear what I already know from someone else  :DIt's the final check mark I am progressing. 

I am very familiar with Martin Ball's work. He is one of my main teachers. However, I came here to see what others may say about the subject, then I analyzed what is valid or not. 

 


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