Do You Pretend To Believe In The Same Things Others Do?

[Deep]

I pretend to believe in what others do such as death. I enjoy playing the game that way. Sometimes people ask me, "What is the concept of God in Hinduism?" I don't feel prepared to tell them yet, so I tell them you can think of God however you want. I know life is a huge delusion. After a person knows that, they can enjoy the world a whole lot more. Most humans are lost in the game because they think the experience is real. If the experience didn't feel real, the game wouldn't be fun. lol 

Do you pretend to believe the same things others do? 

[egoeimai]

No I don't because I have no reason into doing this, plus I don't care to fulfill their egos,or any other benefit behind this . Plus it's good being authentic . ?

[Paintballer]

What you believe is no different than what they believe. You have no proof for it yet, and if you did you would not make this thread. If we are in the business of judging beliefs, all beliefs are false. If we are not, lets us look for an experiential reality that goes beyond understanding instead of putting ourselves above others due to what they do or do not believe in.

[Guest Annetta]

Sometimes, like, if I don't understand what that person is saying and I feel it's common knowledge.  Like with politics or real world events and stuff I'll just nod and agree, 'cause I don't wanna look stupid, or interrupt or anything.  But if I have some knowledge on the topic being discussed and my own opinions on that, then I will be more likely to offer my perspective as long as it does not turn into a debate.

[Key Elements]

No. I rather spend time with others I love or things I enjoy - life purpose, family, and good friends, etc. I'm more able to forgive family members better, even though we're on different stages, because we help each other in the worst of times. Good friends make mistakes but not projections after projections like most people in society. 

Edited June 6, 2017 by Key Elements

[Deep]

On 6/5/2017 at 4:13 PM, Paintballer said:

What you believe is no different than what they believe. You have no proof for it yet, and if you did you would not make this thread. If we are in the business of judging beliefs, all beliefs are false. If we are not, lets us look for an experiential reality that goes beyond understanding instead of putting ourselves above others due to what they do or do not believe in.

Yes beliefs are false and so is the experience we're having right now. My beliefs are constantly changing. I don't think beliefs prevent enlightenment like many people on this forum do. Sorry I forgot to add that in the question. 

[Prabhaker]

6 minutes ago, Deep said:

I don't think beliefs prevent enlightenment like many people on this forum do.

Ramakrishna was a great devotee, and the path of devotion is full of imagination. Mind has the capacity to hypnotize itself and can see the object of imagination just standing before it.

You should pay attention to the fact that no Mohammedan or Christian ever experiences Krishna, no Hindu ever experiences Jesus. They all see what they imagine, what they believe in, what is their hypothesis.

If you continuously go on insisting on a certain hypothetical concept of God, one day you will see that hypothesis becoming a reality.

Ramakrishna was a devotee of the Mother Goddess of Calcutta. An enlightened man, Totapuri, was just passing by. He looked at Ramakrishna and he felt great compassion for the poor fellow. He told Ramakrishna: "You think that you have experienced the Mother Goddess."

Ramakrishna said: "See, I have talked with her, and not one day, but every day." He was an honest man, and what he was saying was absolutely true.

Totapuri laughed and he said: "Listen, that Mother Goddess is nothing but pure imagination. Unless you drop that you will never become enlightened. So sit down. I will remain here for three or four days, just for you. I have to help you in somehow dropping the Mother Goddess."

Totapuri said to Ramakrishna: "You sit in silence. You don't have any other ropes that I can see, just this one rope. So when you see the Mother Goddess arising in your imagination, just take the sword and cut the mother in two pieces. They will fall, and with them will fall the last barrier."

Ramakrishna said: "From where am I going to get the sword?"

Totapuri said: "From where have you got this Mother Goddess? — From the same place. It is your imagination. That is also your imagination; only imagination is needed to cut it."

It took three days, because he would go into meditation and the Mother Goddess would be standing there, and he would forget all about Totapuri. He would forget all about the sword, and tears would start flowing from his eyes, and Totapuri would shake him saying: "What are you doing?"

Ramakrishna said: "What to do? — Because once I see her, she is so beautiful.... Don't force me to cut her."

Totapuri said: "Listen, I can see even from the outside: your face immediately changes when you see the mother. I have brought a piece of glass, and the moment I see that you are seeing the mother — because your tears start flowing, your face becomes so beautiful — I will make a cut just on your third eye center with the glass. I have to do this because tomorrow I leave. I cannot waste any more time. This is the last chance: either you do it or I am finished with you."

And Totapuri said: "When I cut your forehead and blood starts flowing, don't hesitate, just take the sword and cut the mother."

Ramakrishna cut the mother and he remained silent for six days. Totapuri remained for six days, and when Ramakrishna opened his eyes he thanked Totapuri and said: "If you had not come, I would have lived my whole life with the hallucination. My last barrier has fallen away."

Ramakrishna became enlightened after he had cut the last barrier. But even the followers of Ramakrishna don't mention this incident, because this incident makes the whole effort of worshipping futile. If you have finally to cut it, why start it in the beginning?

Osho from 
Zen Wind, Sufi Fire