Best Way To Start With Psychedelics ?

[pluto]

4 hours ago, AstralProjection said:

I would be very careful with edible weed as it's going to be stronger than if you smoked it, since it gets converted into psychoactive substances by the liver that you normally don't get through just smoking. Again just start off low dose for whatever you doing. That is what Alexander Shulgin does when he tests new psychedelics that he creates.

Yeah well said, since he never done anything else i thought edible would be the closest thing he has experience with to a more "psychedelic feel" of course it is best to always start small but it also depends on the person. For example i don't enjoy getting high from smoking because its too much pressure on my mind and fuzzy where edible is more body load more psychedelic feel but yeah thanks for putting that out there.

Edited June 6, 2017 by pluto

[Lynnel]

@nightrider1435 @OBEler @AlwaysBeNice @outlandish @pluto

How do you know your mind is ready for it  and it's won't backfire in forms of strange experiences, breakdowns, etc ?

Like opening pandora's box and fucking it up.

Edited July 10, 2017 by Lynnel

[Leo Gura]

@Lynnel Start with very low doses.

[nightrider1435]

1 hour ago, Lynnel said:

@nightrider1435 @OBEler @AlwaysBeNice @outlandish @pluto

How do you know your mind is ready for it  and it's won't backfire in forms of strange experiences, breakdowns, etc ?

Like opening pandora's box and fucking it up.

You know if your ready. Don't think about it to much, just start small and do it! You seem ready from my point of view.

[Lynnel]

@nightrider1435My mind was like oh yeah if this goes batshit crazy whatever I'm openminded enough. Courage is my sixth value and doing what you think is right even if it's scary is part of it

I'll do some more contemplation ( I already have a steady long term meditation practice) and then dive into it after reading some more.

Better safe than sorry.

[nightrider1435]

@Lynnel Your ready. If your intuition wants you to experience a trip than trust that. I promise you won't regret it.

[AlwaysBeNice]

3 hours ago, Lynnel said:

@nightrider1435 @OBEler @AlwaysBeNice @outlandish @pluto

How do you know your mind is ready for it  and it's won't backfire in forms of strange experiences, breakdowns, etc ?

Like opening pandora's box and fucking it up.

You need to understand how your mind works.

All natural emotions feel good when they are not suppressed/labeled negatively.

Most humans have a lot of suppressed emotions (which can all be found along the spine as chronically tight muscles that hurt when you press them as shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uyvhPpk04s, so check yourself, edit: better let someone else do it for you)

Even fear is just a feeling of high alert. Sadness is beautiful when allowed. Anger is passionate righteousness .

But your parents screwed you over, conditioned you poorly and taught you to suppress emotions.

When you know that, you need to learn to accept all your emotions and accept the bodies way of releasing it, instead of panicking you can be thrilled about it, as it puts you back in the natural state.

Aside from that just know that you are also beyond the body-mind as consciousness. So all the energy play is just play.

So then, if you learn to really understand this, what's there to fuck up? You can't really, but people tend to underestimate their ego's defense mechanism/masks/negative traits/habits and want to deny them and become arrogant/delusional, but that's just only by their own choice, though it generally can take some years to unlearn to conditioning so patience and compassion for yourself is required.

I guess one danger of psychedelics is that they may trigger so much, you rapidly transform and may need to purge things and work through things while you're still living a life as drone in society that needs to function properly so it can get it's food/shelter, but life's kind and will help you on this noble journey of becoming yourself again.

 

Edited July 10, 2017 by AlwaysBeNice

[pluto]

4 hours ago, Lynnel said:

@nightrider1435 @OBEler @AlwaysBeNice @outlandish @pluto

How do you know your mind is ready for it  and it's won't backfire in forms of strange experiences, breakdowns, etc ?

Like opening pandora's box and fucking it up.

Like Leo said "start with very low doses" although i believe in synchronicity and that everything that happens in the universe is in a divine order or play, that nothing is out of random and everything has its divine timing. At least this is one of the main things I've witnessed in high end psychedelic experiences and spiritual visions that when you are there you see how all your thoughts, actions, choices all lead up-to that point ect.. that the higher you/source/self already knew when and where it will happen regardless of how you changed or tried to manipulate the future in any way shape/form.

So which ultimately brings me down to the theory that if you are truly not ready for something, the universe will simply not allow the experience to present itself no matter what. I have noticed long delays in urges to try something and only understood why i was delayed afterwards.

Growing up as a teen i always wanted to try magic mushrooms and LSD but could never find them, i manged to find them around 23 and completely understood why they came into my life then and there. I also seeked DMT for several years and again i could see now how it wouldn't of been wise at all for the universe to present it to me in that stage of life due to the extreme darkness and ego-driven character i had then. It would of scared me a billion times worse and or possibly could of lead to something that prevented growth.

You can always have very challenging experiences but eventually you will see them as the most profound ones that you learned the most about yourself and about creation itself. Of course always with caution and not stupidity but yeah, i truly believe in these values as i have seen them and observed how it all works very closely.

Just like everything else in life if you follow your heart and your body and once you have that unbreakable trust within, that is all you need to thrive in life. The universe already takes care of everything else. All is asked is for you to live so U in Universe can expand itself subjectively only to grow and evolve collectively

[Lynnel]

Thank you for the feedback guys !

I gave this a good thought and I'm gonna start with a low dose and enjoy it.

I've been having LSD like effects - distortion and colors during my normal focused meditation for over 7 months now so most likely I won't be too shocked at first

[Heart of Space]

Be careful, do your research, and start small.  Lot's of people are full of shit when it comes to psychedelics, especially many people who use them.  Understand that they are chemicals, that CAN absolutely be dangerous to you psychologically. 

They are not a quick fix for any problem you have.  They are not magic, but they can provide some pretty profound experiences.  They can also fry your brain if you do too much.  People will tell you that they are 100% safe because there's no obvious documented damage caused by them.  But take it from me, they can do your brain long term serious harm.  So be really careful and be wary of anyone who talks about psychedelics in an airy fairy sort of religious new age sort of way.  

Don't mean to be too negative, but I feel it's necessary to counter all the overwhelming positivity towards these drugs.  They are not good or bad, they're just substances that interact with your brain chemistry.  The result can vary.  

With that said I hope you get what you want out of it.