Is Hope A Bad Thing?

[Yonkon]

It seems to me that hope is always connected to fear. Whenever i hope for something, i also fear that i'm not getting that thing i hope for. Some of my most painful memories are a result of crushed hope, so i'm very indifferent about hoping for something. So should I abandon hope? Isn't it better to work towards a thing without hoping to achieving it?  What are your thoughts? 

[egoeimai]

It's ideal to be detached from results.

Difficult tho. 

Positive thoughts -> I can and I will . No doubts

I hope means I want but I'm not sure yet. Although I want to I.hope.for the better but it's kind.Of out of my control.

So then the doubts come. Will I.succeed ? Can I do this? 

And then it comes fear what if I won't succeed ,?

And then manifestations of that fear . You didn't succeed. 

FOCUS ON POSITIVE. DAILY AFFIRMATIONS BRAIN WASH ASAP. YOU CAN DO THIS!

[Epiphany_Inspired]

@Yonkon  My understanding is that it works best if you detach from specific external results, but learn to trust in the multi-verse and yourself to achieve more general internal results (allowing the universe to manifest that in unique ways). For example, instead of hoping that you will get a new job (because this one brings you unhappiness), you could alternately focus on achieving happiness, thinking only of happiness as something you DO wantyou could visualize yourself happy in your daily life, on your way to work looking excited, etc)....then trust in the mutli-verse...

[Guest Annetta]

Hope is evil, but it springs eternal.  

[Salaam]

On 6/4/2017 at 8:33 AM, Yonkon said:

It seems to me that hope is always connected to fear. Whenever i hope for something, i also fear that i'm not getting that thing i hope for. Some of my most painful memories are a result of crushed hope, so i'm very indifferent about hoping for something. So should I abandon hope? Isn't it better to work towards a thing without hoping to achieving it?  What are your thoughts? 

Why are you demonizing hope when it's really loss you have a problem with?

Everybody is so scared to take a hit and feel pain, that they stay huddled to the ground, for fear that the slightest raising of themselves creates a farther drop to fall from.

Well, if you're ever going to fly, you have to have the courage to risk taking a fall.

Personally, I love and have a lot of appreciation and gratitude for hope. In fact, I make sure to protect my hope so I don't get twisted in the same way you're showing and reject hope out of a fear of loss. That twisting away from something healthy out of a fear of something else, is one of the most malignant actions that happens in this world.

However, with all that said. There is a valid question of what you rest your hope on. Personally, I have hope in myself, in my spirit, to see things through, and get me to my dreams. My hope has practical application and deeply developed capabilities behind it.

Make sure you give your hope the tools it needs to succeed before you write it off. And if you do write it off, you'll probably find your dreams begin to fade, because hope is a necessary life-line for keeping those dreams still waiting to be realized, alive in our hearts and minds.

[RichardY]

@Annetta Why is Hope Evil?

[Guest Annetta]

@RichardY Because you have to drop it when on a spiritual path, but as I say it springs eternal.  Hope is like a mind parasite.
 

A good analogy for hope.

[Erlend K]

I guess it depends on how you define "Hope".

To quote Kaufman: "Hope often gets a bad rap. For some, it conjures up images of a blissfully naïve chump pushing up against a wall with a big smile. That’s a shame. Cutting-edge science shows that hope, at least as defined by psychologists, matters a lot."

There are research showing that being hopeful not only increases happiness but also encourage is to stay motivated and keep working towards our goals even in the face of challenges that would have discouraged us if we lacked hope.

I recently did Martin Seligman's coursea course on positive psychology. He mentions a study that concluded that the propensity to feel hope was one of the top 3 mental characteristics most strongly associated with flourishing (the two others being the propensities to feel love and gratitude)

[WaterfallMachine]

Hope isn't wrong. It's found in stories of people finding the hope to defend their family in war torn countries. Hope is what's there when a person fighting cancer to gain the drive to fight another day. It's what there when people in depression tells themselves that there is hope to forge on.

I'd phrase it less as hope being the cause but more a practice in motivation and acceptance at the same time.

It's when you want to do something, yet you don't feel the need for it. "I' should be happy." "I'd like myself to be happy." "People shouldn't be dicks to me." "I'd like people to be kinder to me." Different, right? 

It's when you desire something for something better — to succeed. Not motivated out of a desire of running away from something or that something is not enough. Compare "Not depressed" and "Being happier." "Not being lazy" and "Getting disciplined." 

What is "enough" or what is "better" is primarily controlled by mindset. There are people who are wrecked with illnesses that are happy and people who are rich full of money that are depressed over not having enough.

It's when you take things one step at a time and show patience for what you want. People notice when they're really impatient or frustrated but people often show a slight unsatisfaction with the moment — a mindset of waiting for something. Patience does not force things with their desire. They flow into it. 

It's when you don't do things for a goal, but for the sake of pursuing a goal. Because often when people finish a goal — they feel pride but then it just beings to look normal. There is no "ultimate goal" because there is no "finish line" to life until you die. What lasts is the pursuit so find what you can enjoy in it. And to have that is to really reflect whether getting what you want externally really lasts.

[Gabriel Antonio]

 

[Prabhaker]

@Yonkon

Hope is not the right thing. Live in the present so deeply, so completely, that nothing is left. Then there will be no projection. You will move very smoothly into the tomorrow without carrying any load from today. And when there is no yesterday haunting you, then there is no tomorrow. When the past is not hanging around you, there is no future. 

Hope is an illness, a disease of the mind. It is hope that is not allowing you to live. Hope is not the friend, remember; it is the foe. It is because of hope that you go on postponing. But you will remain the same tomorrow also, and tomorrow also you will hope for some future. And this way it can go on for eternity, and you can go on missing. Stop postponing. And who knows what the future is going to reveal to you? There is no way to know about it. It is an opening; all alternatives are open. What is really going to happen, nobody can predict. People have tried. 

Maturity happens when you start living without hope. Hope is childish. You become mature when you don't project hope into the future. In fact, you are mature when you don't have any future; you just live in the moment — because that is the only reality there is.

Life has to become very intense in this moment. A man who lives in hope dissipates life. He spreads life; it becomes too thin. And when it becomes too thin, it is never happy. Happiness means intensity, tremendous depth. If you spread your hope into the future, life will become very thin. It will lose depth. When I say drop all hope, I mean be so intense in the moment that there is no need for the future.

Drop hope.

But whenever I say to somebody to drop hope, he thinks that I am telling him to become hopeless. No, I'm not doing that. When you drop hope there is no possibility of becoming hopeless, because hopelessness exists only because of hope. You hope and it is not fulfilled; hopelessness arises.

You hope, and you hope again and again in vain; hopelessness arises. Hopelessness is frustrated hope. The moment you drop hope, hopelessness is also dropped. You are simply without hope and without hopelessness. And that is the most beautiful moment that can happen to a man, because in that very moment one enters into the shrine of God.

OSHO