Do You Want Actualized.org Degrees

[Guest username]

We already have a course, a book list, hundreds of videos, and will soon have another course. In @Leo Gura's latest video, he mentioned we should have the equivalent of a bachelor's, master's, or Ph.d in self-actualization theory.

I want to see who else would think it could be helpful for the site to have a structure to guide them through the foundations of self-actualization. Since it's autodidactic, you'd have the freedom to work through it as much as you want, do things in a different order, or only do the things you find personally relevant to you, but could still guide you and help give you a big picture of the core of personal development theory.

Go ahead and vote on the poll and let me know what you all think down below. 

[PetarKa]

@username What do you mean "do we want degrees"? Can you be a bit more specific?

[Guest username]

@PetarKa Did you read the OP, or just the title? 

If the OP's still unclear, I can elaborate of course, but I'm just asking. 

Edited May 28, 2017 by username

[PetarKa]

I read your post (if that's what you mean by OP).

I'm still unclear about it. Do you mean creating a sort of template for how to use the videos (what order, how to take notes, what steps to take etc.)?

[Guest username]

@PetarKa I was proposing a structured curriculum for the foundations of self-actualization theory and varying degrees to use a guidelines.

Not just the videos, but theory in general. Of course, different people have different needs, but the general concepts are pretty universal.

[Key Elements]

Wow, are you asking Leo to start an university? 

[ You know, I mentioned this before. Sai Baba (Guru) started hospitals and universities. ]

Is there such thing as B.A. in Life's Calling? It may not be a very easy major. I heard that U.C. Berkeley in California offered a PhD in Peace Studies, which is based on Buddhism. 

[Guest username]

@Key Elements Well, he already said he wanted to make this a "Sage University" of sorts, so I figured it might be a good idea. Idk though. It's cool either way-- I already like the set up.

[Dan Arnautu]

@username Try and come up with a template yourself, some sort of modular prototype/curriculum and then maybe more people will be open to the idea. I personally like it. 

I think some sort of assessment would be needed to detect problem areas and things that would need emphasis based on personal goals. 99% of people have a very low level of self awareness. This would lead to a modular curriculum that should be unlocked once the fundamentals from a general curriculum would be put into place. 

Feel free to play with these ideas, but try to come up with a concrete plan. 

[Guest username]

@Dan Arnautu I don't care enough about this idea at the moment to come up with anything on my own, and I'm not pushing it. I just wanted to see who else thought it sounded cool. Maybe in the future though.

[jse]

On 29/05/2017 at 0:49 AM, username said:

Do you want degrees (such as BS/BA, MS/MA, Ph.d) to guide you on your theory research?

Yes, I would very much like to have 10th Dan Black Belt in Spiritual Egotism.
And a certificate to go with it.

 

[Guest username]

@jse Do you think it would necessarily be promoting spiritual ego?  I think  it it'd be possible to just have to as a guideline for personal research without making a big deal about it.

[Guest username]

@jse Hmm, maybe you guys right.

I was thinking it obviously wouldn't be number one but could definitely be number two. With as many people being put off by the idea, perhaps it would be three and not end up serving a good purpose.

[jse]

5 hours ago, username said:

@jse Do you think it would necessarily be promoting spiritual ego?

Any mental activity that is even vaguely associated with (small-s) self, and even stuff that has nothing to do with it, will be claimed by the self and feed the self.  i.e., self-actualization, self-enquiry, self-esteem, self-worth, self-respect, self-image, self-importance, self-confidence, self-ishness, self-etc.

So, yes.

[Guest username]

@jse Where do we draw the line though? There's still a relative world where mental models are useful. Perhaps I'm not understanding you, but are you advocating against any sort of (small-s) self-referential constructs since you believe they would just be perverted for egoic purposes? If that's the case, how would that even be avoided since the entire relative world is Maya?

If I'm not properly understanding you or something you see off in my observation, please feel free to point it out.

 

I should add:

The degree idea was just me brainstorming, but I figured it could serve as a useful way to structure research, not a distribution for formal certificates or any sort of status symbol. I was thinking more along the lines of implementing a non-linear/ hierarchical self-study curriculum in which the material is ordered to stratify the following:

-Basic to advanced material

- Foundational/critical to niche

-Priorities as recommended by Leo (like the rating system in the book list)

I suppose @Dan Arnautu was correct that I really should have fleshed out the idea more and explained myself rather than just posting a half-assed thread and leaving the idea open to interpretation, thus failing to really communicate what I had in mind.

Maybe I'll think it through and re-post with better wording sometime in the future, something like  "Would you like to see a re-modified, more structured Actualized.org Blueprint?"

It was pretty presumptuous on my part to assume everyone had the same thing in mind as I did.

[jse]

2 minutes ago, username said:

@jse Where do we draw the line though? There's still a relative world where mental models are useful. Perhaps I'm not understanding you, but are you advocating against any sort of (small-s) self-referential constructs since you believe they would just be perverted for egoic purposes? If that's the case, how would that even be avoided since the entire relative world is Maya?

@Dan ArnautuIf I'm not properly understanding you or something you see off in my observation, please feel free to point it out.

 

Whenever we draw a line somewhere, "not two" exhales a long deep sigh.  The world appears to us as having boundaries, but in reality they are all mental constructs.  The more we talk about this, the more confused the mind grows.

 

[Guest username]

@jse I know distinctions are all mental constructs, but even Enlightened people use distinctions, don't they? They just know them for what they are.

I'm not claiming to know the answer. This is just my current understanding.

[Guest username]

@Captain Flint  Yeah, I didn't explain what I had in mind very well at all apparently.  That's not what I was proposing.

But maybe the fact I even referred to structuring things in a way that might be perceived as a status game (again, not what I had in mind) is revealing enough to say it's a bad idea.

[Guest username]

@Dan Arnautu @PetarKa @jse @Dantas @Fidelio  @Captain Flint

Alright, I created a new thread that hopefully better communicates what I had in mind:

 

[ajasatya]

Life's already what you want.

• dealing with anxiety
• dealing with remorse/guilt
• dealing with sexual desire
• dealing with your eating habit
• dealing with your parents
• dealing with your friends
• dealing with your intimate lover
• dealing with your children
• etc

those are the fields. study hard but be careful... they're 90% practical and there's no teacher to tell you that you've passed or failed.

[Guest username]

3 minutes ago, ajasatya said:

Life's already what you want.

• dealing with anxiety
• dealing with remorse/guilt
• dealing with sexual desire
• dealing with your eating habit
• dealing with your parents
• dealing with your friends
• dealing with your intimate lover
• dealing with your children
• etc

those are the fields. study hard but be careful... they're 90% practical and there's no teacher to tell you that you've passed or failed.

That's really not what I was suggesting. I made a new thread that might explain better.

Edited May 30, 2017 by username