Does Giving Value To Others (meeting Some Or All Of Their Six Needs) Equal And Mean Contribution

[Sharpadox]

Hello everyone, I hope that you are doing great in your life. I wanted to ask, do you believe that meeting other people's needs (when giving them gifts, going on a vacation, playing video games) equal contribution to the other person and therefore to the universe. In this video Tony Robbins talks about how someone he knows earned money by meeting people's needs for significance. 

So, do you believe that there is a point in eating chocolate, playing video games. 

A quote by Tont Robbins says: 

The secret to success is... is no secret. It's called work your Ass off and find a way to add more value to peoples lives than anyone else does!

So is giving value a positive or can it trap people in doing meaningless things like playing video games and eating chocolate.

Edited May 20, 2017 by Sharpadox

[faith]

Not sure exactly what you're asking, but I am very much interested in the last century as it was the most humans ever accomplished. For example, with the invention of the car, the urbanization, computers, etc..... Last century was definitely a significant one for our history. And one HUGE (if not the biggest) thing to come out of this century is consumerism. Consumerism is this sneaky way to put emotional value on things to make us believe that we need them to be happy. For example, you must have the new iPhone, everyone has the new iPhone, you will stay connected with everyone at all times, and will never feel lonely or sad because it has so many new and cool additions. 

What a load of horse shit, pardon my French!

But that's essentially what was created in the last century, and if you're interested in the exact events that took place, I would suggest looking up Edward Bernays - he was one of the most influential figures behind consumerist culture. As a fun side note, he is related to Freud whose big idea was that humanity is evil because our subconscious behaviours are unstable, and we tend to act out in violent ways. And, of course, Bernays used his uncle's ideas and made his own fortune with it. 

Where the hell am I going with all this? 

Well, my friend, if you want to add value to people, don't use this emotional-attachment-to-products idea. Will someone respect and admire and love you if you give them an xBox or will they respect and admire and love you if you're a genuine, sincere, above materialism kind of guy? 

Your choice, best of luck!

[Visitor]

18 hours ago, Sharpadox said:

A quote by Tont Robbins says: 

The secret to success is... is no secret. It's called work your Ass off and find a way to add more value to peoples lives than anyone else does!

So is giving value a positive or can it trap people in doing meaningless things like playing video games and eating chocolate.

Usually, in commercialism "to find a way to add more value to peoples lives than anyone else does" is an exploitative ploy. The best value to anybody's life is truth. However, most do not want to hear that.

That biblical saying 'love thy enemy', seems to be a strange statement. But there is a reason for loving your enemy. The enemy is more likely to tell you the truth about yourself than a so-called best friend who only wants to appease you - regardless if its a lie.

The best value to add to a person's life is the truth. Yet in commercialism that is not seen as the best way for financial success.

[Sharpadox]

4 hours ago, faithful said:

 

Where the hell am I going with all this? 

Well, my friend, if you want to add value to people, don't use this emotional-attachment-to-products idea. Will someone respect and admire and love you if you give them an xBox or will they respect and admire and love you if you're a genuine, sincere, above materialism kind of guy? 

 

I think you really helped me with your reply. I would like to ask you, do you think it is possible for a person to add positive (non consumerism) value through being a video game developer and an artist? It seems to me that it is almost a necesity in society to use abuse this consumerism mindset if we are to succeed financially in society (with some exceptions).

[faith]

8 hours ago, Sharpadox said:

I think you really helped me with your reply. I would like to ask you, do you think it is possible for a person to add positive (non consumerism) value through being a video game developer and an artist? It seems to me that it is almost a necesity in society to use abuse this consumerism mindset if we are to succeed financially in society (with some exceptions).

Very good question. 

I think most definitely if you are a creative soul and want to expand on that, we definitely need more creative people in our world. If you want to be a video game developer, you can do great things. For example, you can make phone apps that will really help people connect and meet each other without insecurities getting in the way. This is what the Pokemon game did (you know the one that was super popular last year). 

Or you can make playstation and xbox games. It doesn't matter how senseless, violent, sexual, or gore they are. What matters is the level of creativity you put in it. Put real human value, human spirit, human potential in it. Decide that before starting any project. And be aware of that low level thinking behind consumerism. Say to yourself, "Fuck the world, I am going to do things without getting caught up in all of its bullshit. I am going to use my energy for what I believe is right. I am going to follow my intuition." 

Take Quentin Tarantino for example. Many believe his movies are violent and unnecessary. But you can sense that he is extremely creative, and uses that creativity to share his passion with the world. In the end, his movies tend to be a great movie watching experience that millions enjoy, and appreciate. 

[LowPlanetary]

13 hours ago, Sharpadox said:

I think you really helped me with your reply. I would like to ask you, do you think it is possible for a person to add positive (non consumerism) value through being a video game developer and an artist? It seems to me that it is almost a necesity in society to use abuse this consumerism mindset if we are to succeed financially in society (with some exceptions).

The way i think about it is like this.

The consumerist "bullshit" is like the Matrix. It's a way of living life.

You are Neo, and in order to get them out of the matrix, you need to go in there yourself.

Therefore with consumerist products you get them out.

So maybe create art that inspires people to get out of their matrix and pursue enlightenment (or anything you believe to be an essential part of your life) in some way or another. Since art at the end of the day is a form of communication (expression). So why would it not be possible to do that will a video game, a song, a painting, etc. In fact i believe those in this day and age are much, much more effective ways of communicating an idea to people, because it is manipulative.

The only danger is if what your communicating is not healthy and ends up becoming destructive, and the whole idea of 'with great power comes great responsibility'.