I can no longer slaughter animals

[Sugarcoat]

12 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Once again, it is not about morality! I once cut my hand with a chainsaw and I felt the most brutal pain I ever felt! I just don't want other creatures to feel pain and death because of me! In my eyes all the other creatures have the same right to life as I have! Just because I am from a species that can overpower these animals shouldn't be a justification for me to kill them! Imagine if earth would have 8 billion highly intelligent bears! How would you feel when a bear decides that you are going to be his next meal? 

Then veganism is for you 

[Daniel Balan]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

I've killed chickens before. I don't see the connection with non-duality, it's just that you're a little more sensitive than average and try to rationalize it in a spiritual way.

I am extremely sensitive! I do admit that! But before going into self actaulization I could do the killing almost mercilessly! But now I can't, I just realized that the chickens have the same right to life as every other species on this planet! And if I am god as Leo says this means that every being in the universe is also god! 

[Yimpa]

@Daniel Balan You are Slay 

[Daniel Balan]

1 minute ago, Yimpa said:

@Daniel Balan You are Slay 

@Yimpa We both are! 🙂

[Daniel Balan]

11 hours ago, integral said:

This is the burden of becoming more conscious, and why most people would rather stay in their comfort zone and bubble, and never grow up.

But you’re just going through growing pains, there is a beauty and purpose of a circle of life and as a human, you are a part of it and there’s no escaping this reality.

Many people go vegan because they can’t align their identity with the real world, a world were a human is a killer. If you were born a crocodile would you be questioning whether killing is wrong or would you accept your identity?

You’ve always been a crocodile! And now you’re realizing it and you don’t wanna be a crocodile anymore, but you have to take the time to accept yourself as you are.

The vegan perspective is gonna come to the common section here and tell you that you could be a vegan and I’m gonna tell you the exact opposite, that you can’t, and it’s better that you accept what you are then to try to run away from this.

You’re gonna grow so much higher if you accept this right now and push through then to hide under the emotional coping mechanism of veganism.

If it makes you feel any better, the hard part of life is a life of prolonged pain in cages, but these animals are living well and are passing on instantly from one chop that they immediately just go back to a state of infinite love.

This is the best response, it is exactly what I need to go over this and man up again! I will try to take maximum care of them animals while they are alive and I will love them with all my heart and do what is necessary when the time comes as quickly as possible so they don't feel a lot of pain! You are right, If I were born a crocodile I'd still have to feed myself! This is god's dream! You have to play by the rules of the dream!

Edited yesterday at 10:53 AM by Daniel Balan

[Daniel Balan]

12 hours ago, Someone here said:

@Daniel Balan i told you the solution in a sarcastic way but you ingnored my post .

At the same moment you are beheading a chicken..you are the human who is beheading the chicken and the chicken being beheaded.  Karma is instant .you don't have to feel guilty for killing animals because they ain't gonna go anywhere. When you eat a  juicy steak it turns into protein in your body .then you poo 💩 it in the toilet .then it gets diffused in the soil .then some plants grow.then a rabbit eats the plant.then an Eagle eats the rabbit .then you eat the bird's flesh . Then you poo 💩  it in the toilet.  

Get where is this going ?

 

Yes! You are totally right! I understand you now!

[Daniel Balan]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The same thing happened to me with fishing. Killing fish made me sadder and sadder every time. Even so, I used to go snorkeling with a harpoon and kill them. I lived on a boat and had to fish. Really, if you don't kill them, they'll die of something else. All living beings die, and it's not like humans, who occupy a place in the machinery of society. No one will miss a fish; they will be instantly forgotten.

 

For me wasn't about pain or moral, was about the animal is alive, then it's dead. You see the change, something powerful, full of life, in a moment is an object, it's very sad to see, I couldn't get used or enjoy it, I always felt shit killing. 

I can relate 100% with you! I share the exact same experience!

[Daniel Balan]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Then veganism is for you 

Thank you! I will try to go vegan as much as possible going forward! 

[Yimpa]

5 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

Thank you! I will try to go vegan as much as possible going forward! 

Thank you @Beans for cooking me vegan chicken patties every morning. I miss you so much.

im sorry for killing our relationship over and over again 

Edited yesterday at 11:10 AM by Yimpa

[Nemra]

I think the important thing is that you became conscious of how ruthless you have been. No offense.

Edited yesterday at 11:48 AM by Nemra

[Aaron p]

I would slaughter my family members if I had to...for example in a war where they're in the opposing side.

(See entire basis of story of Krishna and Arjuna in the bagavad gita). 

I think the key it whether it's necessary. Needless killing is pointless waste of energy and good relationships not to mention very painful for the killee

Edited yesterday at 12:03 PM by Aaron p

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

I am extremely sensitive! I do admit that! But before going into self actaulization I could do the killing almost mercilessly! But now I can't,

It's your right. 👍

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

I just realized that the chickens have the same right to life as every other species on this planet! And if I am god as Leo says this means that every being in the universe is also god! 

No one has the right to live in the absolute.
Your life is more or less protected by the law and, by extension, the armed forces because you are part of a social contract.
Animals don't work and don't pay taxes, so you can kill and eat them unless they belong to a human being.

What we call ethics and invoke superstitiously is simply this balance of power relations embedded in the subconscious, by habit.

Then there are people who don't want to kill animals because they are more empathetic than average, but it's still selfish; it's just that your brain prefers to see them alive than dead.

[Daniel Balan]

21 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I think the important thing is that you became conscious of how ruthless you have been. No offense.

Only at stage green does stage red realize how ruthless he has been his whole life! 

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

Needless killing is pointless waste of energy and good relationships.

It's true; I have a good relationship with @Yimpa.

And yet it's a pig.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:57 AM by Schizophonia

[Daniel Balan]

18 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It's your right. 👍

No one has the right to live in the absolute.
Your life is more or less protected by the law and, by extension, the armed forces because you are part of a social contract.
Animals don't work and don't pay taxes, so you can kill and eat them unless they belong to a human being.

What we call ethics and invoke superstitiously is simply this balance of power relations embedded in the subconscious, by habit.

Then there are people who don't want to kill animals because they are more empathetic than average, but it's still selfish; it's just that your brain prefers to see them alive than dead.

I've always understood that my life can be taken at any time by my enemies if the law and the government disappeared! That hooligans can torture me and take all my possessions, because the property right is just a social construct and the government is the only thing that allows me to have possesions! That's why I have my household full of axes and knifes and artizanal weapons! I am always extremely paranoid that if the political landscape gets out of control the only entity that would keep my ass alive is my ability to physically defend my body and my house! That's why I told @Princess Arabia that I hate mankind as a whole! Because in a lawless society I would be enslaved and stripped of my house and other goods! I understood this aspect long before I came across actualized.org! My grandpa always told me since I was a child that the only reason we have food to eat and a house to live in is because a group of bandits didn't decide to storm our house today!

Edited yesterday at 12:10 PM by Daniel Balan

[Yimpa]

18 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

And yet it's a

 

[integral]

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

Thank you! I will try to go vegan as much as possible going forward! 

Changing what you eat is not a game, it’s very serious business. I recommend waiting until you’re at least 25 to consider restricting vital foods from your diet. Most people don’t have the genetics/biology necessary to do veganism, it just doesn’t work for them And they learn this the hard way (health problems) that I guarantee you want to avoid. Diet is strongly related to your genetics and upbringing.

The biggest trap in veganism is that when you start you feel good because you no longer have to spend as much energy digesting meet. The problem is long-term you deteriorate and because you had such a good start you’re blind to it and cannot see all the subtle problems that veganism creates. You only realize the problem after years later and the problem becomes so big you’re forced to see it.

Edited yesterday at 12:56 PM by integral

[Daniel Balan]

@integral as of april this year I am officially 25! I was born in 2000, the last year of the 20th century!

[Hojo]

You are saying you can never slaughter another animal for eternity, its how you do it. Imagine you have that feeling then do it, that would be the inappropriate emotion. You need to love to do it. Your brain matter is behind the bird you cut the head off its a hologram. Proven by science philosophy and direct experience.

Just say I am claiming this life force and sending it to God. If you do it but still have these emotions you are gaining karma. You are not better than God and God is doing it.

 

Edited yesterday at 02:48 PM by Hojo

[Sugarcoat]

8 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Thank you! I will try to go vegan as much as possible going forward! 

I’ve also considered switching to more plant dominant diet. Science actually promotes it as the most healthy eating pattern