Update on my spiritual development and progress

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 What I'm saying is you can't figure it all out using the mind.so I agree on the bolded part .

Im also not messing around ..im saying Understand that all questions and all answers are partial and in a sense not even "true".. Notice  you can't formulate one question without making a mistake (creating a false distinction). So if you seek no mistakes the only way is silence in the present moment. The present moment is not a mistake. The mistake is thinking there is a mistake. And then you go on trying to solve the nonexistent mistakes by creating more mistakes ....

You can arrive to the definitive answer about what are you, and it's something absolutely clear and real. It's the end of the path to "enlightenment" or as you want to call it. Then there is still a lot of work to do because the door that opened get closed again. You have to understand what closes and polish it. A real change will happen. 

[Someone here]

53 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You can arrive to the definitive answer about what are you, and it's something absolutely clear and real. It's the end of the path to "enlightenment" or as you want to call it. Then there is still a lot of work to do because the door that opened get closed again. You have to understand what closes and polish it. A real change will happen. 

So let me get this right..even AFTER I fucking grasp what the hell is existence (which I don't think there was ever anyone who walked on earth have achieved)..then I will forget about that state of consciousness and revert back into delusion? So when are we gonna be just "done "? And if there is no such thing as "done " then what the fuck is your problem? 

What you don't understand yet is that you are already that which you are trying to achieve or seek or understand. You are the Ouroboros . The snake eating its tail .

 What must happen wil happen. What wasnt meant to happen will never happen . Allah  doesnt play with dice 🎲. It's a natural unfolding.  It's an insult to my intelligence to continue this conversation  i know you cant help it ..It is in a way deterministic I'm not gonna lie. I don't believe we are the source of our actions or reactions. Because we are not even real that's where the practical mind doesn't want to go. It's impractical and provoking to say everything just happenes for no reason and no one is doing it. Yet this nothing but the pure truth of it.

You are  stuck in duality. Which  appears very real when you are caught up in your mind. There is two ways to see through it either by questioning it or by calming your mind.  

 

[Breakingthewall]

18 minutes ago, Someone here said:

So let me get this right..even AFTER I fucking grasp what the hell is existence (which I don't think there was ever anyone who walked on earth have achieved)..then I will forget about that state of consciousness and revert back into delusion? So when are we gonna be just "done "? And if there is no such thing as "done " then what the fuck is your problem? 

What you don't understand yet is that you are already that which you are trying to achieve or seek or understand. You are the Ouroboros . The snake eating its tail .

 What must happen wil happen. What wasnt meant to happen will never happen . Allah  doesnt play with dice 🎲. It's a natural unfolding.  It's an insult to my intelligence to continue this conversation  i know you cant help it ..It is in a way deterministic I'm not gonna lie. I don't believe we are the source of our actions or reactions. Because we are not even real that's where the practical mind doesn't want to go. It's impractical and provoking to say everything just happenes for no reason and no one is doing it. Yet this nothing but the pure truth of it.

You are  stuck in duality. Which  appears very real when you are caught up in your mind. There is two ways to see through it either by questioning it or by calming your mind.  

 

I'll explain it to you again because it seems your mind is full of contradictory ideas. The thing is very simple: forget about all those concepts of here and now, consciousness, love, God, free will, etc. Look, the essence of reality is limitlessness. You think you know what that is, but you don't. Never, since birth, have you tasted it for a single second, believe me.

To taste it, you must be it, but due to the energetic structure of how reality is expressing itself now, that is, your current structure, you can't be that, since there are limits that close you in. You can break them and be your true, total nature. But then those limits, which are solid, will return. Then you will remember all that about infinity, but you won't be able to be it again.

But if it happened once, it's because you were weakening those limits. So it could happen again, and again. Each time, it will become more obvious what limits you, and you can refine it, but they are real, genetic barriers, extremely strong.

You have to be absolutely honest with yourself and see them, and also be willing to let go of absolutely everything. Being without any foundation, truly being infinite right now.

[Someone here]

8 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You think you know what that is, but you don't. Never, since birth, have you tasted it for a single second, believe me.

Don't pull a Leo on me now..I'm the only person awake in the universe. 😂 

Lmao. 

So you know jack shit right ?

"All I know is I know nothing "

-Socrates. 

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Someone here said:

Don't pull a Leo on me now..I'm the only person awake in the universe. 😂 

Lmao. 

So you know jack shit right ?

"All I know is I know nothing "

-Socrates. 

39 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 

I guess that there are a lot of awakened persons, but Socrates wasn't one. 

[Inliytened1]

5 hours ago, Someone here said:

Anyways..First i want to say why don't i just drop all of this non duality nonsense..

Robert Adams is literally talking about Oneness from what you posted.  The problem is when someone gets lost in the concepts of so called non-duality and misses the forest for the trees.  Thats why sitting on the forum all day long is really no good.  Rather than getting lost in talk get lost in actuality.   Meditation. Self inquiry.  The Truth is in you not other. Not a teacher.  Thats precisely what Adams is telling you.  Truth isn't a belief system or an ideology.  It's within you.

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Someone here]

@Breakingthewall bottom line bottle wine is this :

There is energetic difference between a very convincing argument or question you pose and a fart.. They feel different. But both are just valueless feelings. But see what would happen if you start seeing your thoughts the way you see your farts? 

your whole philosophy about openness and absence of limits and whatever else holds to this universe no more value than one of my farts to my body.  Please don't get offended. This information might make you enlightened. 

 

[Someone here]

@Inliytened1 well the intention of this thread was to convey exactly what you just said. But of course no way it's gonna escape from Breakingthewall's to try to ruin the whole dam thing with endless arguing about impossible things .

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Robert Adams is literally talking about Oneness from what you posted.  The problem is when someone gets lost in the concepts of so called non-duality and misses the forest for the trees.  Thats why sitting on the forum all day long is really no good.  Rather than getting lost in talk get lost in actuality.   Meditation. Self inquiry.  The Truth is in you not other. Not a teacher.  Thats precisely what Adams is telling you.  Truth isn't a belief system or an ideology.  It's within you.

 

I really don't understand this obsession with appearing condescending and talking nonsense. I analyzed Adams's text because I wanted to talk about it. Thanks for the advice on meditation. Any advice on diet, sex, or work?

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Inliytened1 well the intention of this thread was to convey exactly what you just said. But of course no way it's gonna escape from Breakingthewall's to try to ruin the whole dam thing with endless arguing about impossible things .

I haven't argued anything, I've just pointed out a reality. It's surprising that you don't see it. 

But maybe anyone could understand it.

Edited 22 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

I really don't understand this obsession with appearing condescending and talking nonsense. I analyzed Adams's text because I wanted to talk about it. Thanks for the advice on meditation. Any advice on diet, sex, or work?

I was talking to @Someone here i hadn't read your discussion with him i was responding to his initial post.  But apparently he gets it and is saying the same thing i was saying.  

I do have a lot of useful advice regarding diet, sex, and work.  Hit me up 😀

[Breakingthewall]

It's exhausting talking with you guys, you are like walls, and made from steel. Have a nice time inside your box, sure it's comfortable, because seems obvious that you don't want to get out of them 😘

[Someone here]

@Breakingthewall are you for real ? You rape this section of the forum on daily basis acting like a know-it-all fucking Buddha or something then you ask a question such as "what is consciousness?"? Oh my goodness. 

The more I do this work the more it becomes clear to me that I don't know anything. Conceptualization comes to an end and you are left with raw experience.

Because this work is fundamentally about shedding all falsehood and locating absolute truth.

And what do you get when you seriously sit down and deconstruct your mind and Everything. Every thought..belief.. Idea.. Concept.. Ideology.. Observation.. Discrimination and motivation. Whether it be  science.. Philosophy.. Religion.. Spirituality.. Or anything else.....?

CONSCIOUSNESS!!!
 

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I was talking to @Someone here i hadn't read your discussion with him i was responding to his initial post.  But apparently he gets it and is saying the same thing i was saying.  

I do have a lot of useful advice regarding diet, sex, and work.  Hit me up 😀

Sorry, I ve lost my patience because talking to Someone here  is exhausting, as he refuses to understand anything, he refuses even to argue and clarify, he just wants to win. It's stupid argue with him, but the text of Adams was interesting and I wanted to talk about it, about what's conciousness, etc. I think that this talk in the correct direction is like a meditation that can free the mind

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

The more I do this work the more it becomes clear to me that I don't know anything

Yes , for me it's very clear too, that you don't know anything 😘

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes , for me it's very clear too, that you don't know anything 😘

Neither do you muffin Marshamello with Caramel sauce 😘

I know how to fry an egg so that counts 😂. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

Neither do you muffin Marshamello with Caramel sauce 😘

I know how to fry an egg so that counts 😂. 

37 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

 

 

Let's see, if you say that for you the most important thing is the truth, that nothing else matters, that you read spirituality all the time, that you want to reach the bottom of the bottom, the top of the top, the total opening to absolute infinity, to limitless expansion... why do you refuse to open your mind? Are you afraid or something? It seems like a lot.

It seems crazy to be hooked on this kind of conversation, but the fact is that no one else in the world is interested in this, which is the only really interesting thing, and those who are interested, except for some rare cases, don't really want to do it. This is the definitive enigma, the most interesting maze that exists, the top of the games. Nothing could be compared. 

 

[Yimpa]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It seems crazy to be hooked on this kind of conversation, but the fact is that no one else in the world is interested in this, which is the only really interesting thing, and those who are interested, except for some rare cases, don't really want to do it. This is the definitive enigma, the most interesting maze that exists, the top of the games. Nothing could be compared. 

It’s a special interest 

[Someone here]

15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

if you say that for you the most important thing is the truth, that nothing else matters

Oh it's worse than that right ? Nothing matters. At all .entirely. completely. You might disappear from existing right now for no reason. Its called cosmic joke for a reason . 

[Someone here]

@Breakingthewall

 Starting from minute 24 is pure    madness. Yeah don't watch it if you don't want to get skull fucked.