Thinking place

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

I tested this: I tried to manifest/desire a lot, without any expectation, just fantasizing for the fun of it -- the most amazing fantasies I could come up with -- and I contrasted that with a state of desirelessness. 

That state of desire has an energy similar to a rap song - it's prideful, arrogant, energetic, exciting, extroverted, contracted, dense.

That's the expression of your personal self. You have to dig deeper, beyond the desires of the personal self lies the impulse of God itself. When you touch that desire with your awareness, then you have touched God himself. And it's a different state than detached witness awareness. It's full of glory and grandness (but not arrogance). Just the grandness of God that descend from the top of the crown to the rest of your body vibrating with joy and overwhelming love. It's a messianic conciousness. That's where true ability to manifest comes through and it comes no longer from the personal self but from the devine self that extends only the good, the holy and the beautiful. If it's Jesus that you're looking for, then you'll need a different approach. No one in nonduality circles know about this state. It's a completely different game. 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Salvijus

[CoolDreamThanks]

@Salvijus if you live in such a state, then wow, that sounds amazing; congrats! Unfortunately, I don't feel like that's a possibility for me. 

What resonates here at this point are teachings of non-duality—the realization of no personal will, the seeing that the person is the problem, and that as long as there is a person seeking, there is no chance of happiness.

I'm really tired of seeking and trying to attain enlightenment. It feels like I've already tried everything to the extreme, and nothing really fundamentally changed.

So teachings that say that nothing has to change -- this is already enlightenment -- it's just that there's a seeker on top of what is, and it veils the perfection, and the happiness is what is -- really resonate right now.

I'm hopeful that I can finally drop all seeking and just live in not-knowing, not-believing anything, just accepting that this is it, there's nowhere to go, nothing will ever change, just this flow and morphing of nothingness which is already perfect as long as I don't intrude upon it with my seeking and resistance. 

There's no person who will get enlightened, there's no person at all, just an illusory psychological entity, a contraction, and when it dissolves, what IS shines, and there's nothing that has to change. The person can't do anything to achieve enlightenment because all of this doing and seeking is what veils it. The end of seeking sounds bad for the person and kinda disappointing because he thought he will morph and transform into something glorious, but now I'm beginning to believe that this isn't it, it was just a fantasy. 

Kinda makes sense. I don't even know if I can decide to live in such a way -- but I will try and see -- maybe that will make me happy. 

I already tried everything -- why not try accepting that there's nothing to do and it's all already perfect and enlightened? What's the worst that can happen? I will either find happiness or find once again that I'm unsatisfied and will try again. 

 

[Salvijus]

@CoolDreamThanks well I guess you're right. I used to be into the art of non doing aswell. Gangaji used to be my favorite one. I think she's one of the few that has a solid understanding on it. Others in my view are just gaslighting people with nonduality lol. Acim and wom speaks on this subject aswell. So there's definitely value from it indeed. 

"To do anything involves the body. ²And if you recognize you need do nothing, you have withdrawn the body’s value from your mind. ³Here is the quick and open door through which you slip past centuries of effort, and escape from time. ⁴This is the way in which sin loses all attraction _right now._ ⁵For here is time denied, and past and future gone. ⁶Who needs do nothing has no need for time. ⁷To do nothing is to rest, and make a place within you where the activity of the body ceases to demand attention. ⁸Into this place the Holy Spirit comes, and there abides. ⁹He will remain when you forget, and the body’s activities return to occupy your conscious mind.

Yet there will always be this place of rest to which you can return. ²And you will be more aware of this quiet center of the storm than all its raging activity. ³This quiet center, in which you do nothing, will remain with you, giving you rest in the midst of every busy doing on which you are sent. ⁴For from this center will you be directed how to use the body sinlessly. ⁵It is this center, from which the body is absent, that will keep it so in your awareness of it. (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/225#7:1,7:2,7:3,7:4,7:5,7:6,7:7,7:8,7:9,8:1,8:2,8:3,8:4,8:5 | T-18.VII.7:1-9;8:1-5)

"Well, I have read the Course in Miracles one time, and it didn’t seem to work — I’ll read it again. Oh, that didn’t work. Well, maybe I’ll go try this form of meditation. No, that didn’t work. Maybe I’ll try Buddhism. No, that didn’t work. I’ll try Christianity. No, that didn’t work. I’ll try drugs — that will do it!

The very energy of seeking is the egoic energy. For only the ego can seek. Pure Spirit can only extend. And there is a huge difference!"

Edited 49 minutes ago by Salvijus