I Hate Women

[Princess Arabia]

16 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia the numbers are a result of something true.

I never said it wasn't true but the question is "what's true". The numbers can represent something true and something false simultaneously. Something good and something bad simultaneously. Marriage is also an industry worth millions, so is divorce and baby rearing and baby killing. If so many men were having problems picking up women on a whole, those other industries wouldn't even be profitable because they require the two to be in union with each other.

Problem is, men want hot models and then complain when they can't get them and call the ones they settled for stupid or the ones that settled for them stupid.

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[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Men don’t need attention.

It's not about a need. I had to attend to your comment to make a response. What you're trying to say probably is that men don't require the same kind of attention that women require. Men need the attention to even start the dating process.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia im not talking about marriage or divorce or baby killing im talking specifically about pick up. Why is pick up a billion dollar industry?

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[Peo]

14 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

The goal is to have a loving partner, and ultimately children.

That is your goal. Not all men have same goal in the dating world. Personally for me having sex and to improve my confidence and social skills is my goal. 

 

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia im not talking about marriage or divorce or baby killing im talking specifically about pick up. Why is pick up a billion dollar industry?

A point is better made and understood when there are examples. One's mind cannot be open to really understand their own claims and perspectives if it's only limited to one factor. There were factors responsible for that industry  becoming a billion dollar industry and there will be factors within that billion dollar industry that causes another industry to be successful. Only focusing on the one industry and trying to argue a point by only referencing the one industry and saying you're not speaking about the other industries will only result in limited pov's and illuminate biases and projections and turn the trajectory of the conversation into one that seems goal-oriented to just trying to prove a point and not see how the held perspective could be faulty because of blind spots not revealed by the seeing of outside causations.

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[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia  Its okay to speak about one industry and not gish gallop around to every other industry that relates to men and women and humans species as a whole. We can single out one industry and talk about it its how communication works. We can do this you just don't want to answer a question. Cause it would result in woman not being as easy to fuck as you are making it sound. This industry is directly pointing to a specific problem men are having. This problem has nothing to do with murdering babies or getting married or getting divorced.

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[Princess Arabia]

@HojoThe point of me referencing the marriage and divorce and baby industries, is to show that there cannot be such a wide problem of men and women getting together if those other industries are also fruitful. They somewhat go hand in hand on a general scale and on some level. You said men are having problems picking up women but there's another booming industry called marriage happening. Divorce and baby rearing. I can add to the list that suggests men are indeed hooking up with women. Child support cases in court, domestic violence, Valentine's Day affairs, so many that suggests this. So the problem isn't men picking up women but the men who are having problems picking up women thinking the problem is men are having problems picking up women. This is an individual problem that can be rectified on an individual level not on a mass scale. 

[Princess Arabia]

27 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia  Its okay to speak about one industry and not gish gallop around to every other industry that relates to men and women and humans species as a whole. We can single out one industry and talk about it its how communication works. We can do this you just don't want to answer a question. Cause it would result in woman not being as easy to fuck as you are making it sound. This industry is directly pointing to a specific problem men are having. This problem has nothing to do with murdering babies or getting married or getting divorced.

Such entitlement. I've had enough of this conversation. Maybe when you grow up and realize women have more to risk than just having the mindset of an easy lay and a night filled with passion can lead her into the doom house and that lots of men only want sex from her and she can't just lay up with any and any one, you'll understand why. Maybe turn yourself into someone that a woman can feel safe and secure with and from the way you speak on here about women to me, maybe try to polish up the lingo and the way you view them on a whole. WE'RE NOT HERE FOR YOUR SELFISH SEXUAL GRATIFICATIONS. I've seen time and time again that you're not presenting the best version of yourself to women but speak about them like trash and expect the best out of them. I'm through with this conversation with you, I have nothing more to say on the matter with you and i hope you really start to see the value of women and the role they play in a man's life other than what you think it is and that being for just sex.

Edited 4 hours ago by Princess Arabia

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia does pick up exist for women?

You said the same thing last night then started with me again when you felt you could take a jab. Now you insult and leave again. Look at the patterns. Look when I say you speak in circles. You are very toxic to speak too.

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[WikiRando]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

lol sure mind reader

 

Skill issue.

Right on! Totally agree 

 

[WikiRando]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

 I’ve wondered to myself how it works for men when they desire women, when they feel desperate, seems to be several factors at play, but as you said development level probably plays a role. 

 

The desire for sex / intimacy is always there, but a low level of development leads one to pursue it imbalanced ways.

It's about being able to meet one's needs in a healthy way. If not, that's when the desperation and bitterness comes

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, WikiRando said:

 

The desire for sex / intimacy is always there, but a low level of development leads one to pursue it imbalanced ways.

It's about being able to meet one's needs in a healthy way. If not, that's when the desperation and bitterness comes

Understood.
There are even guys who are bitter towards women despite getting sex, it’s probably when it’s in a imbalanced way as you say, if they deceive women to get sex that can be rooted in misogyny . They could be desperate because it’s important to their self image to have lots of women. That’s also low development 

[Princess Arabia]

21 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

There are even guys who are bitter towards women despite getting sex,

Sometimes this can be the case because the women are giving themselves so easily and they resent them for it as they might not see a need to grow in all the ways a man grows. A lot of men out there knows the value of having women around and are improving themselves to get the kind of women they want and to have options. If women are not allowing them to have incentives sometimes they'll resent her for it. That's why a lot of low-income men turn out to be abusive and beat upon their baby mommas because they feel like worthless piece of shits so they act like it and take it out on her. If you didn't sleep with me and made me have ambition to go out and work hard so I could get the hot woman I so desire, I'd amount to something, so it's because you were so easy to get why I have no respect for you, cheat on you and treat you like this. That is some of the subconscious mindset. They would never treat a woman who they had to put in the investment for like that. 

 

[meta_male]

@SQAAD Reading your post, what stands out to me most is not hate, but hurt. You don’t hate women, you love them. Maybe too much, in a way that it stings when you can't see how to connect with them. And that pain is human.

But maybe consider this: What if your suffering isn’t some proof that you’re done for but more of a sign that you’re close to a turning point? You’re clearly smart and are seeing things others don’t. But there’s also a story that you’re caught in...where more control and fun seem out of reach from you forever. What if that story isn’t true? 🤔

A year from now you could be in a completely different reality. Where connection isn’t a price women “get” and men have to "earn” but a natural part of being grounded in your own life. Not easy, but definitely possible.

You’re not alone, bro. A lot of guys feel this way, just most don’t say it.

 

[eos_nyxia]

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Being distracted is a blessing because you are not forced by Suffering to grow up.

This is good for absolutely no one.

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If you are an average looking young woman you automatically have a lot of power and leverage on many things. While if you are an average guy, you are f*cked. Look at Ted Kaczynski. 167 IQ. Harvard Graduate. Died a virgin..

You are comparing two unlike things; why not compare a hypothetical "average woman" with an "average man"? Like, do you really think it's easier being a highly intelligent woman? (By whatever normal metrics that intelligence is measured by these days). If you're considered conventionally attractive enough, people will overlook the weirdness and the psychological baggage that often comes with it, but that can only go so far. In a similar way that people will overlook sociopathy as well, but it's not a great thing lol.

I mean, getting sex and being loved isn't a reward for just existing and being an intelligent woman either, but it's not about that, is it?

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While women enjoy effortlessly the fruits of sex.

Yes, subpar and emotionally unstimulating sex, which in many cases, is worse than none at all. Just a reminder that the female sex bears more risks for having sex, including assault (sexual and otherwise) and pregnancy.
 

[eos_nyxia]

On 2025-04-23 at 10:27 AM, SQAAD said:

This whole society is messed up. I agree with Robert Sapolsky. Agriculture was a disaster for the human race.

10.000 years ago, if you were a male, you were hunting all day with your group, you were fit, you were socializing and at night time you had sex with a female.

Agriculture meant that 1 petty humanoid could have 1000000 more accumulated grain and wealth than 1000 humanoids combined.

Before agriculture there was no wealth inequality .

This extreme wealth inequality is the root of all of our social problems.

There was no "i don't have any friends".

Yeah you died at 25. But you lived fully.

I mean, there is a point to this, even though the speculations about what pre-agricultural life was like tend to be riddled with unchecked utopian fantasy.

But you're right. We're not well-equipped emotionally or spiritually to work at unfulfilling labour which arguably serves no higher purpose in a highly regimented and bureaucratic way. Social isolation and disconnection that is built into our modern lifestyles is a serious issue and it seems to only be getting worse. And it's true that by default, we lived more fully and freely.

But take a look around, more and more people are finally starting to direct the anger where it is more appropriate, at the parasitically wealthy and greedy who take and do not give back in proportion to what they've claimed for themselves. There is no balance there. More importantly, there is the drive to do something about it, even if it's only changing the way you live your life and the way you speak about it.

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I'm exagerating some things here but bottom line is if you are male nowadays life is not easy for you. The most basic thing such as sex is like you are trying to climb Mountain Everest.

Great, so now what do you do about the things that deep down you don't feel like you fully deserve?

On one hand, there is the obvious entitlement of thinking: I deserve sex; it's a basic need; it should be easily available whenever I want it. On the other hand, deep down, do you really feel like you deserve it? If you don't, then you will probably hate the woman giving it to you freely and also hate yourself as well. Funny how people can feel both ways.

 

[Princess Arabia]

Notice how threads like these that were started by the OP as a way to dump their emotional feelings, they very rarely ever come back and answer any responses or contribute any more to the topic and it's usually the members arguing amongst themselves about the topic. I've seen many threads like these and they're usually in the dating section. They get started not for advice, mot to resolve anything, not for ways to help them deal with the issue at hand, but as a dumping garbage pan for the energy that built up inside them. Then we pick up the remnants and the energy gets fed and lives on.

That's how energy expands. Hatred feeds on itself and others' that wasn't supposedly manifested starts to come alive and takes hold of the individual reading this and all sorts of stories and explanations come into the picture to explain away their own feelings of hatred and now the chain reaction lives on. 

It's not my thread but I would suggest OP asks to close this thread because all it's doing is bringing up unwanted feelings in others and giving them a reason to think of why they are also feeling hatred. Hatred that is there regardless of women but women are used as the scapegoats for the reasons why they have these feelings. It's never about the object in question, it's about the relationship one have with themselves and their own thoughts.

[Peo]

14 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Notice how threads like these that were started by the OP as a way to dump their emotional feelings

Maybe they just find it easier to dump their emotional feelings online, where they don't need to face them in real life. They would never do it with their friends or familiy. They would get shut down or it get really awkward. The internet have a lot of toxity beacuse it is easier to type online then to rant about it in real life. Here we can all hide in the shadows.