I Hate Women

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia what does date rape and drunk women being easy to have sex with have to do with eachother why make the comparison.

I was making a point. The point was that women want to sleep with who they want to sleep with. A man may want to sleep with a woman who doesn't want to sleep with him and if he's a "date raper", he might resort to that to get to sleep with her. Women who are drinking or even drunk may sleep with guys they wouldn't normally sleep with if they were sober. I never said drunk women were easy but it's easier to sleep with a drunk woman - there's a difference.

[Sugarcoat]

You can’t really judge women’s suffering by just observing them a little. I don’t know what you’re basing it on, but I can mention some things, women are more likely to experience chronic pain. Women might struggle with getting a guy that wants a relationship. Women might get sex but they might get bad sex, porn centers men’s pleasure and men can sometimes focus on their own pleasure or go over women’s boundaries, women suffer harassment and rape more than men. Women might get more attention from men but it’s not always good attention. Women might feel they’re doing unfair amount of household work in comparison to a man (if she’s not a housewife) they might feel like they’re being like a mommy to their man (I’ve heard this from some women). Women might be better emotional intelligence wise than men and feel like men don’t meet their emotional needs. Woman have pressure on them to be pretty and they obsess over appearance, have eating disorders etc

Im not minimizing men’s suffering, men have some areas of struggle for example loneliness that is greater than women’s. But in general both sexes have suffering, can’t really say one suffers more like that. 
 

I understand you feel burdened by your struggles, I have my own struggles too that I feel burden me. But I’d say it’s not fair to turn it against women, that’s just extra frustration, it’s not helping your issues to compare your struggles to women or hold on to this idea that women have it easier, whatever it’s based on,  even if let’s say women did have it easier , what does it help to compare and resent? It’s not productive. It’s a way to not directly deal with the problem at hand 

 

Btw I am a bit surprised this topic didn’t get taken down because of the title. But I’m glad it didn’t, I would like for this forum to be a place where we can openly discuss topics even if they come off as “offensive” or controversial. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia whats the difference.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Women might get more attention from men but it’s not always good attention.

This is the point right here that men don't understand. For a man and a woman, attention is different. 

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

This is the point right here that men don't understand. For a man and a woman, attention is different. 

Yea because women are much less likely to catcall etc so the type of attention they give is better, women don’t pose as much of a threat to men in general

Edited 6 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia whats the difference.

Being easy on your own without a substance is different than being easy because of a substance. Saying drunk women are easy is attacking the women, saying it's easier to get a drunk woman in bed is attacking the substance. There is no blame either way it's just the perspective is being looked at from different angles.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia No one said being easy was bad. There's no difference besides the way the woman views the word. This is dishonest to me. No one blames women for being easy men want that. As you just pointed out its not real. Women are extremely defensive about being easy. Because they don't want to be. This goes against your entire argument that women are easy to get with.

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[Schizophonia]

2 hours ago, WikiRando said:

The idea that women have it easier than men is absurd. 

I don't understand why men are so desperate for sex and meeting women, and like to make a big hairy deal about sex either. I do have a theory and that is that they have a low level of consciousness/development and therefore act like animals, and they don't know anything higher or better in life. like following their passions or pursuing a balanced, harmonious state of mind. They are trying to fill a void with sex because life is empty and hollow because they are not living their truth. So sex and women, to them, starts to become this crutch, it starts look like this really awesome, lofty thing, so they become really desperate, but also very bitter at women when they don't get it.

And now we have a whole host of toxic victim-based ideologies to support this, where these men who buy into victim-based beliefs can find a community and stew in the toxicity, without even realizing how it's not helping them at all. 

The solution as a man not to hate women or play victim, it's to nourish, cultivate, and work on yourself.

 

You must have low testosterone levels.

But you’re true in the last paragraph.

Edited 5 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, WikiRando said:

The idea that women have it easier than men is absurd. 

I don't understand why men are so desperate for sex and meeting women, and like to make a big hairy deal about sex either. I do have a theory, and it's that they have a low level of consciousness/development and therefore act like animals. They don't know anything higher or better in life than sex, such as following their passions, or pursuing a balanced, harmonious state of mind.

They are trying to fill a void with sex because life is empty and hollow because they are not living their truth. So sex and women, to them, starts to become this crutch. It starts look like this really awesome, lofty thing, so they become really desperate, but also very bitter at women when they don't get it.

And now we have a whole host of toxic victim-based ideologies to support this, where these men who buy into victim-based beliefs can find a community and stew in the toxicity, without even realizing how it's not helping them at all. 

The solution as a man not to hate women or play victim, it's to nourish, cultivate, and work on yourself.

 

That’s such a mature grounded response. I’ve wondered to myself how it works for men when they desire women, when they feel desperate, seems to be several factors at play, but as you said development level probably plays a role. 

[Eskilon]

4 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

You must have low testosterone levels.

Nah he might have high testosterone, but realized sex is shallow.

You can have equal great sex or even better by yourself. No need to be needy and hate women.

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Eskilon said:

Nah he might have high testosterone, but realized sex is shallow.

I assure you he is in poor endocrine health to consider sexuality like that + Calling sexuality shadow is neurotic.

1 minute ago, Eskilon said:

You can have equal great sex or even better by yourself.

Lol no, never.

1 minute ago, Eskilon said:

No need to be needy and hate women.

Ofc.

[Princess Arabia]

46 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Next is pick up is a billion dollar industry because men don't know how to pick up women. Im pre arguing.

There are plenty of billion dollar scams out there feeding off of people's emotions and having people believing all sorts of shit while the others are raking in the results. Don't fall for the numbers. Learning pick up is not the only answer. The men teaching men how to better themselves, improve themselves, work on themselves and how to attract what they want in life are not raking in the billions because they don't cater to the hate emotion or the "I need something from women" narrative.

Men don't need to learn how to pick up women, men need to learn how to attract women. Women also have  pick up communities learning how to attract the men they want to attract. You just don't know about it because that's not where your focus is. It's on the lack of what you're not getting, not what you want. 

Most women are being hit on on a daily basis. It's not original and new. What's original is being original and becoming the type of man that women are flocking to. Women have options in this department because they are women, men have options in this department because they became a man. 

[Eskilon]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

I assure you he is in poor endocrine health to consider sexuality like that

lol sure mind reader

 

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

Lol no, never.

Skill issue.

[Schizophonia]

Just now, Eskilon said:

lol sure mind reader

 

Skill issue.

I've experimented enough with hormones and medications to know what a low testosterone, or more simply low neurotransmitter, state feels like.

He has a soft vibe, what he says doesn't apply to the average man.
 

 

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia the numbers are a result of something true.

[Peo]

8 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

You can have equal great sex or even better by yourself.

I agree, if the women is lazy and won't bother putting some effort into make the sex great. In that sense you can have better sex by yourself. For example jerking off would be better then visiting a prostitute that only cares about your money and give bad sex service. 

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Peo said:

I agree, if the women is lazy and won't bother putting some effort into make the sex great. In that sense you can have better sex by yourself. For example jerking off would be better then visiting a prostitute that only cares about your money and give bad sex service. 

Why are you projecting yourself with a woman who acts like a starfish or even a prostitute? The goal is to have a loving partner, and ultimately children.

Edited 5 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Princess Arabia]

26 minutes ago, Hojo said:

No one said being easy was bad. There's no difference besides the way the woman views the word. This is dishonest to me. No one blames women for being easy men want that.

It's not about easiness being good or bad. It's about having sex, as a woman, with whom you really want to have sex with. You say dishonest because you think she really wants to but holds back because of. Maybe she just doesn't want to. 

Of course, men would love it for women to be easy. It's not about what men want, but what they will respect and see in a woman. All of this depends on different stages in one's life. It's not so cut and dry. An 18yr old female will probably view sex differently than a 30yr old.

[Eskilon]

5 minutes ago, Peo said:

For example jerking off would be better then visiting a prostitute that only cares about your money and give bad sex service. 

For sure, but even regular sex with a women that you have attracted might not be that great and you are just better with yourself.

Edited 5 hours ago by Eskilon

[Schizophonia]

49 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

This is the point right here that men don't understand. For a man and a woman, attention is different. 

Men don’t need attention.