I Hate Women

[Basman]

5 hours ago, WikiRando said:

 

The desire for sex / intimacy is always there, but a low level of development leads one to pursue it imbalanced ways.

It's about being able to meet one's needs in a healthy way. If not, that's when the desperation and bitterness comes

Which is why enlightened Buddhist only stick to molesting one boy instead of a dozen.

[WikiRando]

@Basman Firstly, you don't know if they're enlightened or not, secondly, they are clearly repressed and neglecting their needs.

If you think some mystical states or monkhood is going to automatically cure you of your neediness, that's a fantasy. 

Celibacy and asceticism is real, there schools where that sexual energy can be transmuted, but many schools just don't have the tools to help their ascetics do this. Maybe it was lost along the way, which is why they end up repressed. But all this is irrelevant to us. We are not ascetics nor should we larp or pretend to be one. 

If you're not having sex, at least rub one out, repression is equally dysfunctional, that's taking things to the opposite extreme. Most men are lacking balance, it's either chase and cry about sex like a horny dog, make it a big deal, or become repressed, create a sexual shadow and mess yourself up, there is no groundedness. 

Edited Friday at 07:06 AM by WikiRando

[meta_male]

8 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Notice how threads like these that were started by the OP as a way to dump their emotional feelings, they very rarely ever come back and answer any responses or contribute any more to the topic and it's usually the members arguing amongst themselves about the topic. 

Because too many users here use the forum as a way to socialise and vent instead of a tool for growth.

[gengar]

>10.000 years ago, if you were a male, you were hunting all day with your group, you were fit, you were socializing and at night time you had sex with a female.

Why are you assuming there weren't low value guys at that time that got nothing? If you look at documentaries following monkey tribes, it's clear there's always been a hierarchy with the men at the bottom getting nothing.

>I'm exagerating some things here but bottom line is if you are male nowadays life is not easy for you. The most basic thing such as sex is like you are trying to climb Mountain Everest.

Do you think women are also having less sex, but are just better at handling it, or is it just an increase in hypergamy? one of the two has to be true at least, or both at varying degrees, otherwise it's a logical impossibility that men are having less sex but women aren't. I'm interested in your take on it.

I used to be filled with raged to my core about it, and sometimes still am, but it's just my ego making postmortem convulsions, having realized it is totally over for me. I do feel a sense of rage still, of it being so hard for men nowadays, and the disgust that women have for average men; all propaganda induced by our hyperconsumerist, hypercompetitive society. The mistake is to think it's all womens fault. It's no ones fault; just the collective ego of society doing its thing.

It's no wonder figures like Andrew Tate rise up, simply filling a void of demand for a catalyst that allows a young man to sacrifice truth and morality to be more successful with money and women, if he's not dumb enough to disclose his mentality at least. It's like turning to the dark side of the force.

I'm glad I didn't go through with it, although I sometimes fear that if I didn't have my disabilities and crippling anxiety and brain fog, I'd be one of the most horrible men alive, indulging in unethical business, pimping and manipulating women for sex, dominating men, all to feed my ego and distract from my deep-rooted beliefs of being unlovable and unattractive. Hell, maybe I'd even be a rapist. Probably not though, But I've seen dark depths of my soul that genuinely scare me.

In that regard I'm glad God smote me with my issues, humbling my ego to degrees I've never known. My success breaking down has allowed me to hold on to my love for Truth. Getting lost in pleasure and success would have certainly driven me off that path. Although I often hear the devils voice telling me to jump off a cliff, that in the next life all will be better and I'll get everything I've ever dreamed of. The suffering and loneliness is becoming unbearable and I feel like I'm slowly but surely going mad. I don't think I'll make it here any longer; I need to get out of the city and to a remote spiritual location, out in beautiful nature; and live the rest of my days as an ascetic, renouncing all wordly pleasure. I think it's the only way to keep the Devil in the hole.

Edited Friday at 09:27 AM by gengar

[gengar]

On 4/23/2025 at 7:46 PM, Leo Gura said:

The suffering a man goes through is a blessing. It's what makes you strong.

Don't wish for the easy life. The easy life is an illusion.

Love the challenging path.

This post implies that you agree that women suffer less than men. Is this your stance?

 

[Basman]

2 hours ago, WikiRando said:

Firstly, you don't know if they're enlightened or not, secondly, they are clearly repressed and neglecting their needs.

You seem to imply that "consciousness" as a trait changes one's behavior to act more moral in a certain sense? What do you define "consciousness" as exactly and how are you sure you aren't just conflating it with a kind of moralism, which would be culturally informed? What if molesting monks are enlightened? Does that change the dynamic at all?

[Staples]

@SQAAD How does it feel to carry that hate around with you?

What's the point of hating? You can just stop doing it if you wanted to.

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

On 23. 4. 2025 at 7:46 PM, Leo Gura said:

The suffering a man goes through is a blessing. It's what makes you strong.

Don't wish for the easy life. The easy life is an illusion.

Love the challenging path.

Completely dissagree. The fact that your life is challenging doesn't mean shit, what's the added benefit? Bigger pain tolerance? LOL results is all that matters. You can try hard and have a challenging life and still keep being viewed as a loser by other people. What was all that "challenging life" good for then? For fuck all, that's what.

In fact, it's best to make your life as easy as possible. Which does include some effort, but not dragging yourself throught cannals type of effort

[something_else]

 

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You can try hard and have a challenging life and still keep being viewed as a loser by other people. What was all that "challenging life" good for then? For fuck all, that's what.

"I might try and fail, so there's no point in trying at all"

I'm sorry to be a bit rude, but this is such a terrible mindset. If people think you're a loser, this kind of thinking is probably why. Not your genetics or anything else you blame.

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The fact that your life is challenging doesn't mean shit, what's the added benefit? Bigger pain tolerance?

Primarily it means you're more capable of dealing with problems and setbacks in any endeavours you take on in life. If you have experienced lots of challenge in your life and always managed to come out on top, then you are far more confident with yourself when dealing with future challenges.

If you try to remove all challenge from your life to make it as easy as possible then the part of your brain that knows how to deal with difficulty basically atrophies, and you become a husk of a human.

Edited Friday at 12:31 PM by something_else

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, gengar said:

This post implies that you agree that women suffer less than men. Is this your stance?

 

In some ways women have life easier.

But in some ways harder.

In general, young men -- this like thread -- do not understand how hard life is for women. Just because it is easy for a woman get random sex does not mean what young men think it means. It's not as good as it seems to a man. So being resentful over it is silly.

Counter-intuitively the easy life can involve more suffering as it breeds weakness.

Edited Friday at 01:32 PM by Leo Gura

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

33 minutes ago, something_else said:

"I might try and fail, so there's no point in trying at all"

Yes. Because if you have to think along these lines, you are already playing a rigged game. True confidence (and I mean true fucking confidence) is knowing you can raise your left hand up in the air anytime you want, BECAUSE you CAN in fact do that. With 100% probability. Real confidence is not "oh, there's a fairly high chance I might fail, but, you know, I'm going to be confident anyway" Confident about what? Is there enough positive reference experience? For some men there's not. So how the fuck can you just bluntly tell them "just be confident bro, just keep pushing through pain bro" such a self help BS. You want odds stacked in your favour, not against you. Then you can start gaining enough positive experience, and THEN you can be confident. So miss me with that "loser mentality" BS

33 minutes ago, something_else said:

Primarily it means you're more capable of dealing with problems and setbacks in any endeavours you take on in life. If you have experienced lots of challenge in your life and always managed to come out on top, then you are far more confident with yourself when dealing with future challenges.

If you try to remove all challenge from your life to make it as easy as possible then the part of your brain that knows how to deal with difficulty basically atrophies, and you become a husk of a human.

Nice work reciting yet another lines of memorized self help BS. Life doesn't always work like that. Not all challenges are surmountable or even worth being overcome. But whatever

Edited Friday at 01:05 PM by NewKidOnTheBlock

[something_else]

40 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Real confidence is not "oh, there's a fairly high chance I might fail, but, you know, I'm going to be confident anyway"

That is literally what real confidence is. Confidence in yourself is knowing that even if things aren't guaranteed to work out, you believe that ultimately you'll still be OK. Even if it's slightly delusional, thinking like this will take you to better places than pure pessimism will.

Socially this is certainly the case. People who are optimistic beyond all rationality are generally more enjoyable to be around than people who are dreary and pessimistic. This is an evolutionary trait, the people who were always negative about everything will drag the group down, and so they tend to get excluded more.

40 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

True confidence (and I mean true fucking confidence) is knowing you can raise your left hand up in the air anytime you want, BECAUSE you CAN in fact do that

It's pretty hard to be 100% or even close to 100% confident about anything worth doing in life. All the good shit involves a lot of uncertainty and risk. People who know how to manage risk and uncertainty tend to be much more successful.

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Not all challenges are surmountable

Of course not. But you don't really know what is and isn't surmountable. 

Edited Friday at 01:45 PM by something_else

[Applegarden8]

2 hours ago, Staples said:

@SQAAD 

What's the point of hating? You can just stop doing it if you wanted to.

 

He can stop, but he can't "just" stop. Hatred is not so intuitive thing. He is also not in a good situation which constantly agitates him. Rejection is his life. It gets triggered daily. People look at him as trash and so do some women I suppose. So he is carrying this hatred. So are you and me carrying hatred for one or another thing. That requires work to re-wire that in an environment that reminds you of the pain. It will take time and emotional labour. Underestand he is a product of our society. If people could disregard their hatred, we would live in utopia.

[Staples]

11 hours ago, Applegarden8 said:

He can stop, but he can't "just" stop. Hatred is not so intuitive thing. He is also not in a good situation which constantly agitates him. Rejection is his life. It gets triggered daily. People look at him as trash and so do some women I suppose. So he is carrying this hatred. So are you and me carrying hatred for one or another thing. That requires work to re-wire that in an environment that reminds you of the pain. It will take time and emotional labour. Underestand he is a product of our society. If people could disregard their hatred, we would live in utopia.

People can disregard their hatred. It's the whole lesson Jesus taught. 

They just don't want to, because they enjoy being hateful in some way.

I'm here to tell you that instinct of enjoying hatred is wrong. Give up hate.

Don't make excuses for unhealthy behaviours and worldviews. Just because you can logically understand it doesn't mean it's justified.

Edited yesterday at 01:20 AM by Staples

[Applegarden8]

5 hours ago, Staples said:

People can disregard their hatred. It's the whole lesson Jesus taught. 

They just don't want to, because they enjoy being hateful in some way.

I'm here to tell you that instinct of enjoying hatred is wrong. Give up hate.

Don't make excuses for unhealthy behaviours and worldviews. Just because you can logically understand it doesn't mean it's justified.

That was not my point. They can't disregard. They can suppress they can distract, they can also reflect (if it's successful) or they can project like in this post. I was not suggesting to abandon renouncing hatred. I am saying it takes A LOT of time to flush it out your system, especially if your environment triggers your negative projections about life.

With the logic you express, you will also feel guilty about yourself that you can't accept how you feel. If you can’t accept and watch and reflect in how you feel you will never transcend hatred.

And ofc a lot of people don't want or don't have the tools to reflect hatred.

[Space]

I'm genuinely so tired of all this complaining from men. It's just endless victim mindset and mindless unconscious negativity. 

Every fucking male oriented podcast is men complaining about the advantage of some small % of women or how lonely the modern man is. 

If you're going through some genuine hardship then obviously I have sympathy and compassion for you. Life IS hard, but not because you are a man.

If you have your health, your physicality, and you're not living in some 3rd world country, just get on with life and accept that other people have things easier. You have NO excuse for being bitter and hateful. 

There's so much to do! So many creative projects to engage with. What are you putting out into the world? Start building something awesome - you'll find a lot of joy and meaning from it. 

Why are you wasting time lamenting about how unfortunate your life as a man is? It's profoundly absurd. You're conscious! You exist! Do you understand how awesome that is? My life is difficult. I don't get any attention from women. Yet I wake up every day grateful and excited to be conscious. I'd suggest you do the same. 

I hope to god that you are going to the gym as well. 

Edited yesterday at 07:20 AM by Space

[Osaid]

You hate women cause they're blessed and don't suffer? 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

16 minutes ago, Space said:

I'm genuinely so tired of all this complaining from men. It's just endless victim mindset and mindless unconscious negativity. 

Every fucking male oriented podcast is men complaining about the advantage of some small % of women or how lonely the modern man is. 

If you're going through some genuine hardship then obviously I have sympathy and compassion for you. Life IS hard, but not because you are a man.

If you have your health, your physicality, and you're not living in some 3rd world country, just get on with life and accept that other people have things easier. You have NO excuse for being bitter and hateful. 

There's so much to do! So many creative projects to engage with. What are you putting out into the world? Start building something awesome - you'll find a lot of joy and meaning from it. 

Why are you wasting time lamenting about how unfortunate your life as a man is? It's profoundly absurd. You're conscious! You exist! Do you understand how awesome that is? My life is difficult. I don't get any attention from women. Yet I wake up every day grateful and excited to be conscious. I'd suggest you do the same. 

I hope to god that you are going to the gym as well. 

Hear, hear!

The privilege in the fact that these individuals have the time to overthink/overanalyze to this extent... 

Zero appreciation & gratitude.

Low consciousness snaking in on itself, like a parasitic ouroboros.

[Osaid]

Hate is a belief. It's how beliefs feel. It's not caused by women or any gender.

You can debate endlessly, no statistic you find or justify to yourself will ever find a cause or solution because there isn't even a problem, as in, it will never prove cause and effect (which is the initial assumption).

Jealousy and hate have no gender, it's just beliefs about yourself being projected from yourself. It's how you're relating to it. 

Edited yesterday at 07:42 AM by Osaid

[Letho]

Human life is a balanced process of equilibrium meets integrative ascension, from the spiritual to the materialistic.

What you're experiencing is refractive negativism that's found its voice through egoic projection, aka narcissistic injury.

What you're lacking is awareness that's able to mediate itself from experiential suffering to growth, and so in its avoidance of pain (i.e. shame) it slips into compensation (again, the narcissism).

Coupled with this is in misunderstanding any sex at all at a deep level including yourself, because if you did, your lack of success wouldn't project onto the external and responsibility would carry a greater weight from the prefontal cortex.

Your experience will be shared by many on the forum, as most struggle with this balance. Your only way forward is to have compassion for yourself and others if you want to convert this struggle with discernment into wisdom and from wisdom into the will to act against the psychological debris that holds you back.

You will ruin your life completely if you haven't already if you continue down this track. No one on this forum cares about you or the forum admin which is why they put this in the relationship section so people could laugh at you. This is the world you will continue to live in if you continue to follow this path down your own narcissistic naivety that's disguised itself with the 'masculine know how' of the performative act of most males today, including many males on this forum that are too, like you, on this track towards completely ruining their lives because of their inability to balance thier misunderstanding of the outside with a greater self control towards the self-awareness that at least pushes humility towards the personal growth that eventually does.

This forum is not where you will find genuine personal growth, it is psychological toxicity run rampant due to a lack of healthy leadership and system dynamics. You need a therapist or a support group of people that genuinely fuel your self awareness. Move on. Change. Or continue to be laughed at, ignored or perhaps misled by people here who do not truly care about your growth, but first and foremost, because you are not truly invested in your growth, though most of all, as they to some analogous end, share a comparable neurosis and are a part of the problem not the solution.

Human biology is designed to develop the sentience to learn how to align life in a way where life begets greater life through greater awareness overtime, this is the opposite to that. Allow this sentiment to help your drive forward, good luck.