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This is hard

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Really starting to appreciate the challenges of survival.

By this, I mean achieving the following:

- Financial freedom

- Healthy relationships

- Mental health

- Physical health

I'm 27.

3 years ago I was having my first awakening experiences with stellar health, good friends, and broke (but not bankrupt) financials. 

But that was while I was still in college (which I leanred is a massive safety net).

I delayed "real life" by going to grad school (because I rightfully feared how hard it would be to shift into the corporate world or try and make my own way, being a sensitive spiritual type).

After finishing grad school I temporarily moved back in with my parents. Slipped into a depression after 1 week and hit rock bottom after 1 month.

But after making just enough money, I moved across the USA. Worked a corp job that I hated. Quit. Drove Uber full time while trying Instagram sales, modeling, door to door sales, TEFL. (Everything flopped).

I eventually had to get another corporate job and I restarted my intention to bootstrap a business and become financially free. Needless to say it's been exhausting AF. Been at it for 6 months. Never felt like quitting per se, but it's been a massive challenge because of the fact my sleeping/eating habits have been unnatural and low-quality.

Plus I told myself I'd deliberately go celibate until I start earning enough money. Haven't been on a date since September...

Yeah, it's been a b*tch honestly. But I guess the whole reason I'm saying this is to hopefully inspire those of you who want to make it to not lose hope and go after your dreams (even if it hurts). Because complacency hurts more.

But also I wanted to ask people specifically who have become financially free and been able to work on other areas of your lives, how much failure did it take? And for how long? Are you more relaxed? Satisfied? Autonomous? Is it actually what you wanted? Do you feel that you can actually support a stable spiritual practice now that you are "free"?

I ask because I guess I need to know the pain and suffering is worth it and not permanent (in this sense anyway). I feel like I've lost a fragment of my soul in the past couple years.

Another struggle I've come up against is I've realized how challenging it is to not accidentally (or even purposefully) spead evil and unconsciousness through business. 

I've tried so hard to avoid it but I'm starting to accept you cannot, as a noob, start business at net-zero evil. It's just impossible. You're gonna have to do some evil sh*t to make it. Then reduce the damage as you go until you become a flowering of hope.

This is my rant. —J

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Yeah, I get it. I'm young like you. You gotta work your ass off.

Life is hard.


Words can't describe You.

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Here’s what I’ve learned about life being hard as someone who has been grieving “the easy life” for many years:

you can choose to avoid the difficulties or you can choose to try to overcome them.

When it comes down to it, nothing will be able to replace the raw strength you need to overcome challenges. You can’t work around it in any way. It’s kinda sad but a part of life. 
 

Also, don’t worry so much about not being evil and instead focus on your good. It’s much more powerful. 
 

 


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Yes it is hard.

But it is very worth it.

Yes, being free is so good that it's hard to describe.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Yes

This is what I’m trying to do now as well

Trying to figure out the balance between following passion/purpose with pragmatic aspects of life such as bills and relationships. 
 

I will continue to look for ways to improve my income and pursue my dreams / intentions. 

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You are NOT alone!

Hard is Good.

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I became free so to speak and transitioned to work on dating with nothing to show for it. 
 

It’s very bitter sweet.

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I achieved freedom before 30. Everyone's situation and luck is different. When it's hard, it's hard. People struggle to different degrees depending on what they've got going on. My life was hard, until it stopped being hard. I worked on myself until it paid off and then it became easy. I know plenty of people who did it with a few wise and / or lucky decisions but that might also be oversimplifying. For lightning to strike, you still have to climb the mountain. All I can say is that Leo's work has been absolutely foundational in helping me achieve this, and I absolutely would not have done it without the body of work at Actualized.org

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@WikiRando would you mind elaborating on how Leo’s philosophical and metaphysical work helped you achieve financial freedom? Or perhaps even dating?

Or are you talking about his older practical videos?


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@Miguel1 I am conflicted on this distinction. On one hand, making money has nothing to do with Truth. On the other hand, communing with God changed my life and ego structure so radically that after I was reborn, I found that the new me was able to make money easier, mainly because I wasn't drowning in fear. 

Btw, I am talking about financial freedom only. One of the funny consequences of exiting wage slavery or having to work at all is that you lose a big default way of socialization and meeting people (work). Thankfully I am an introvert :)

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@WikiRando Got it. Yea, I totally agree on spiritual work influencing fear very positively.

But for me, the other side of the coin is that if I am not careful, spiritual work can also affect me in losing interest in making money altogether hehe.


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@WikiRando Cool insights.

I think caring about not causing suffering with your work makes making money harder.

Like I inherently care about not causing suffering. But I also acknowledge that my corporate job causes it too. I try to tell myself my business will cause less suffering and the amount i cause will reduce as I become more secure in my own life.

For me financial freedom makes putting all the pieces (girlfriend, spirituality, health) of the puzzle in place easy AF. I tried all of these being broke and it's unsustainable. 

Owen Cook says it's easier to date as a brokie which is true if you don't mind living a low life. In a sense hes right because it means you dont place your worth on money. Otherwise it's one of the dumbest things he teaches. If you wanna live the most well rounded life you need money (plenty of it). I personally don't need a harem of women, just a solid girlfriend (and eventually wife).

Bringing it back, why do you think some people struggle more than others to get there? I didn't grow up in the best family, but also not a particularly bad one either. My parents are good people and in spite of having some fuck ups they gave themselves up for me.

Idk, I guess it really doesn't matter. Just keep going and 5 years from now everything I just typed can be re-hashed as a comedy skit lol

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You could have stayed at your parents while keeping the corporate job for a period of two years accumulating money and investing it building up your assets, and then working on a business on the side.

The game you played with school was a lack of focus, the point was for you to get credentials to make money in something you enjoy or partially enjoy.

You could have gotten a degree in the medical industry and then started many different types of businesses around that for example. But instead you just wasted your time in school

The most important takeaway is that you're physically healthy and that's the main criteria you need for success.

Based on your writing I feel like you have the kind of brain that keeps attacking itself in uncertainty and is lost without a focused strategy.

I'm still not seeing where your strategy is, what business are you building? How are you going to build assets right now?


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2 hours ago, WonderSeeker said:

Like I inherently care about not causing suffering. But I also acknowledge that my corporate job causes it too. I try to tell myself my business will cause less suffering and the amount i cause will reduce as I become more secure in my own life.

Forget all of this! Short-term and long-term are different things. You need to build a foundation right now and the ethics involved are second.

With this ethical logic you should not use a phone not use a computer because that's all child slavery and you should go live in the forest and go hunt food yourself with a bow and arrow. But that's ridiculous. So completely let go of this ethical thing and just succeed and then when you have a foundation you can then start high Consciousness businesses.

Yes your values have to align to a degree like don't start a vaping company if you don't believe in that Because you will lose motivation along the way and fail, But focusing on every nuanced little ethical thing is ridiculous.

 

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Just the act of wanting Financial Freedom means you think you deserve more than 99% of the population who are slaving away in jobs they hate.

The only way for you to get that freedom is to take it from someone else. But you could do it while providing value to society

Get used to corruption it's built into our DNA

Have you ever eaten meat before like today or yesterday, congratulations you just killed something to sustain your life

Your identity has to realign itself with the real world. You're lost in stage green idealism

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@integral Appreciate the points brother. 

Yeah I am idealistic in a way. Been letting go of it for years.

I'm building a ghostwriting business. Using Twitter and eventually LinkedIn as funnels. Already made a few hundred.

1 hour ago, integral said:

Just the act of wanting Financial Freedom means you think you deserve more than 99% of the population who are slaving away in jobs they hate.

The only way for you to get that freedom is to take it from someone else. But you could do it while providing value to society

Get used to corruption it's built into our DNA

Yeah I'm alright with all of this. I get it.

But to say I wasted my time in school is wrong lol. You don't know my life buddy.

Anyway thanks for sharing. Taking it in stride

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8 hours ago, WonderSeeker said:

@integral Appreciate the points brother. 

Yeah I am idealistic in a way. Been letting go of it for years.

I'm building a ghostwriting business. Using Twitter and eventually LinkedIn as funnels. Already made a few hundred.

Yeah I'm alright with all of this. I get it.

But to say I wasted my time in school is wrong lol. You don't know my life buddy.

Anyway thanks for sharing. Taking it in stride

Good stuff man, I said that stuff about school because I thought well he went to school for let's say 4 to 5 years and then after he quit his corporate job he went and work at Uber lol clearly there was a misalignment with schooling and career and the vision he had at a young age was off. So I assumed nothing you went to school for you're using right now in business or in life, I get the impression schooling helped you during your growth Journey or something or make connections? I was sort of emphasizing that it should have been to develop a concrete skill you can rely on.


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10 hours ago, integral said:

Good stuff man, I said that stuff about school because I thought well he went to school for let's say 4 to 5 years and then after he quit his corporate job he went and work at Uber lol clearly there was a misalignment with schooling and career and the vision he had at a young age was off. So I assumed nothing you went to school for you're using right now in business or in life, I get the impression schooling helped you during your growth Journey or something or make connections? I was sort of emphasizing that it should have been to develop a concrete skill you can rely on.

@integral School was for studying my passion which was geology.

It brought me around the world.

It opened my soul up basically.

And yes, school in general helped me come out of my shell, because before I was just a sad, traumatized dude always fighting an uphill battle.

While yes I went into debt because of school, it gave me the space to open up to stage green in ways most at college fail to develop deeply.

I went to college 6 years and at the 4 year mark is when I found actualized. I meditated, read dozens of books. School paid for a 6-week trip to Mongolia. My life got really good for a couple years. (Still hard, but better).

But now all i see is dog-eat-dog if I have any chance of breaking free and getting rid of 70k in debt.

It's a monumental task but I like to think there's pieces of the puzzle i havent seen yet that will aid in the journey and make all the hard work so far worth it.

School opened me up, made me worldly. Gave me opportunity. Reason I can't use it fully is my dream was to become a geology professor ( I fucking love teaching it and taking people on adventures in the mountains).

But when I got a front row seat to what academia was all about (all the falsehood and BS) it made me realize I can't do that. I immediately saw all of society as sick. I was both laughing and crying because I listened to Leo's deconstructing science video while doing microscope work lol.

After coming to terms with my new view of things, i had to make a decision. "I have to build my own system if I wanna be free," became the way of thinking. Still is.

I worked on social skills. Dating. Sales. Now marketing. Business. Just trying to make it.

Then build something more authentic once the money machine is in place.

That's all.

Thanks for replying, G

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@Leo Gura Just saw your blog post (photo attached).

On 4/22/2025 at 10:20 AM, WonderSeeker said:

Another struggle I've come up against is I've realized how challenging it is to not accidentally (or even purposefully) spead evil and unconsciousness through business. 

I've tried so hard to avoid it but I'm starting to accept you cannot, as a noob, start business at net-zero evil. It's just impossible. You're gonna have to do some evil sh*t to make it. Then reduce the damage as you go until you become a flowering of hope.

This is my rant.

How did you create a business when you were a noob?

I'm trying to loosen my ethics so its easier to start (without being corrupt), but it's hard because I pursued spirituality first.

Basically I don't wanna hurt anyone thru biz but I need to get my foot in the door first. It's a paradox I'm working through I guess.

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@WonderSeeker Sounds good man, this was what I imagined, your only 27 with health and awake, you got this.


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