Question about why is there something rather than nothing video

[Breakingthewall]

21 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

@Breakingthewall

You can't understand me because your approach to spirituality is entirely positive. You seek what is, you'll never find it. You'll create one mental construct after another. What you have to do is let go of everything that isn't.

[The Crocodile]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You can't understand me because your approach to spirituality is entirely positive. You seek what is, you'll never find it. You'll create one mental construct after another. What you have to do is let go of everything that isn't.

[Breakingthewall]

41 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

imagine absence of change as being like a perfectly still image. Imagine if you could keep your eyes perfectly still, it’s not possible but just play with the thought, then there would be no change in visual field, are you saying that is nothing ? But it’s still being perceived.

The absence of change is just not manifestation. Manifestation is change. But reality is not the change, change happens in the reality. What appears is not more important that what doesn't appears, it's just that appears. The things that appears are just appearances, if you see that, you see what reality is

[ShardMare]

i have to literally reread the comments over and use dictionary. i dont understand this logic thing

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, ShardMare said:

i have to literally reread the comments over and use dictionary. i dont understand this logic thing

Shit, it's clear, understand it! 🤣 

[Sugarcoat]

29 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Absence of limitations means that you exist. But to reach really that ultimate truth, in my opinion, or at least in my case, you have to open a lock in the mind. And that lock, for me, requires understanding the implications of limitlessness. All that synchronicity stuff is more or less irrelevant; it doesn't matter whether you understand those things or not. But for me, it opens the mind, freeing it from conceptual chains that make the mind spin in circles, trying to understand exactly what this is positively and should be negatively, seeing that it isn't. It's not a mind, it's not something that creates things, that has a will, it's just limitlessness. But limitlessness implies absolute perfection. It's inevitable, and seeing it opens the mind and helps open the heart. Synchrony is inevitable because the nature of reality, seeing that make you abandon yourself . Maybe for some it's not necessary, but for me it's , it's extremely difficult to open yourself to reality, barriers everywhere 

Yea that direct awareness is crucial or else this is mostly just words. But it’s still fascinating conceptually . So basically absence of limitations makes it possible for me to exist

Edited Saturday at 09:57 PM by Sugarcoat

[Sugarcoat]

22 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes but the thing is being open to it, and to do that you have to remove barriers like conciousness, god, love or anything. It's just absence of limitations and there, in the absence of limitations that is now it's everything. What appears is dense, then you only perceive what appears, but the reality is just behind, it's the source of what appears, and the source is just absence of limits, and you are that. There is no mystery, it's clear, obvious, inevitable . The heart is open and inside there is light, then everything is ok, you are that

It's not that you are not what appears, it's the same, but the character of what appears traps you like a maze, it's inevitable. You are the form and the essence, but the form veils the essence and traps you, but you are the essence, because the form is made by the essence. The essence is absence of limits and it's everything 

 

Yea very simply put. I have to open myself to recognize it

[Breakingthewall]

Any logic about reality starts from the absolute groundlessness of reality. Reality is the absence of limits. So, how can you build anything from that? What is the only possibility for each thing? Nothing can have an actor, a will, an intention or a limit. Reality is absolutely free. If you put even the slightest chain on it, you completely close it, and your mind enters the circle of search. There is nothing to search for; there are barriers to eliminate until there is nothing left.

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yea very simply put. I have to open myself to recognize it

You can do it, you have the heart to give yourself totally and open yourself to the total, and the clarity to see the traps 

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

You can do it, you have the heart to give yourself totally and open yourself to the total, and the clarity to see the traps 

Seems almost impossible that’s why few people succeed and even some of those who do say it’s spontaneous. But maybe a strong desire for it helps. 

[The Crocodile]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Seems almost impossible that’s why few people succeed and even some of those who do say it’s spontaneous. But maybe a strong desire for it helps. 

What he's saying doesn't mean anything and is delusional and a sort of worthless effect. If you made money off it it'd just be con artistry.

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

Seems almost impossible that’s why few people succeed and even some of those who do say it’s spontaneous. But maybe a strong desire for it helps. 

It's possible because anything else is just a shit. Not a shit because it's suffering or bad or difficult, just because it's closed. Even being a god is shit, only the total openess to yourself worths 

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, The Crocodile said:

What he's saying doesn't mean anything and is delusional and a sort of worthless effect. If you made money off it it'd just be con artistry.

I see some substance in it

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

It's possible because anything else is just a shit. Not a shit because it's suffering or bad or difficult, just because it's closed. Even being a god is shit, only the total openess to yourself worths 

That’s the mindset needed to suceed I think or it happens spontaneously 

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

That’s the mindset needed to suceed I think or it happens spontaneously 

It's possible when you perceive that you are trapped. It's unbearable. We do a lot of mental tricks to avoid facing it, we construct a real world of fantasy to avoid the obvious fact that life feels like a jail. Something is wrong, you are trapped in all directions by lot of energetic barriers. You have to break them or that is for life. You have to break them now. Then, all time with that in mind, day by day, year by year, in some moment to break the shell, first a moment, then more and more

Edited Saturday at 10:19 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

What he's saying doesn't mean anything and is delusional and a sort of worthless effect. If you made money off it it'd just be con artistry.

For me it's extremely surprising that you and the others don't see something that its obvious. It's absolutely impossible to be different, just remove everything. It's not theory, it's something that you have to do. 

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's possible when you perceive that you are trapped. It's unbearable. We do a lot of mental tricks to avoid facing it, we construct a real world of fantasy to avoid the obvious fact that life feels like a jail. Something is wrong, you are trapped in all directions by lot of energetic barriers. You have to break them or that is for life. You have to break them now. Then, all time with that in mind, day by day, year by year, in some moment to break the shell

Exactly . I’ve had some experiences that connect to what u say

[Breakingthewall]

The truth is the absence of lies. What I said before theorizing about reality.and infinity it's just extrapolating the realization of the nature of reality to the understanding about form  eliminating any final causality and constructing a mental construct about how reality is structured removing any barrier. It's a mind game, but those mind games may or may not contain lies. Lies close, they set limits. Where I said a lie? Maybe there are some, I tried don't say any, that's the game

Edited Saturday at 10:42 PM by Breakingthewall

[integral]

You:
“Are you saying I can win arguments? That I can out-reason everyone?”

Epistemic Morpheus:
“No. I’m saying that when you’re ready… you won’t need to.”

Edited Saturday at 10:57 PM by integral

[The Crocodile]

Just now, integral said:

The Crocodile: No, NLeo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready... you won't have to.