My son had cannabis induced psychosis

[integral]

This video goes through a father who saw their child, enter a psychosis through marijuana

It breaks the narrative of progressive liberal culture. That marijuana is perfectly safe, relaxing hippie thing and there’s nothing wrong with it

My personal experience with marijuana is that at 21 I smoked it once and was in psychosis for many years permanently (until I solved it)

When I smoke marijuana because of my genetics, I get intense hallucinations, and thousands of voices in my head. It’s psychedelic. It’s like every part of my brain is talking at the same time. Creating incoherence.

One of my marijuana trips I accessed all of the first memories I’ve ever had where I unlocked perfect recall of every possible memory

One of my first memories was recognizing what a door was. When I was a baby. I learned the concept of how two rooms are separate through a door. And this was at the time a profound realization that I had as a child and I remember the feeling I had when I discovered this concept I was very excited and even freaked out by this idea.So I was able to access even the emotional experiences of all my memories.

The pro-liberal progressive culture on marijuana is strongly misplaced, and doctors are not equipped to deal with it or have any knowledge of it. They are very much conformist. The father explains his struggle with the healthcare industry.

Marijuana changes the structure of your brain the first time you use it permanently, it doesn’t matter if it was a good or bad experience or if you had any side effects afterwards, you will never be the same after smoking it. You also have cabinoid receptors throughout all of your gut and body, so marijuana affects every organ in your body

This is not a toy, it’s a very serious substance. And our cultures laxness on this has lead to a lot of issues where people are not receiving the treatment they need or the knowledge or awareness they need. Our culture is ignorant, not a surprise.

We are still living in the dark cages

Edited April 17 by integral

[integral]

Most of you that smoked weed as kids or in high school have no idea how it affected you. You’re already changing so fast all the time so the addition of this substance went unnoticed.

Your potential was heavily hit, you lost more than you can imagine

All of your self-esteem problems were caused by that brief experimentation you did in high school

Social stress and anxiety or whatever learning issues you have, all of it was caused because of that couple of times you experimented in high school

Marijuana causes the duling of the mind, learning disabilities, chronic anxiety, depression, lack of self direction, and purpose and all sorts of issues, just from smoking it once.

But when you do it super young, you’re so immature and lack so much self-awareness that you have no idea how you changed.

Edited April 17 by integral

[Schizophonia]

11 minutes ago, integral said:

Most of you that smoked weed as kids or in high school have no idea how it affected you. You’re already changing so fast all the time so the addition of this substance went unnoticed.

Your potential was heavily hit, you lost more than you can imagine

All of your self-esteem problems were caused by that brief experimentation you did in high school

Social stress and anxiety or whatever learning issues you have, all of it was caused because of that couple of times you experimented in high school

Marijuana causes the duling of the mind, learning disabilities, chronic anxiety, depression, lack of self direction, and purpose and all sorts of issues, just from smoking it once.

But when you do it super young, you’re so immature and lack so much self-awareness that you have no idea how you changed.

Don't overdo it either lol, there are plenty of other problems that cause anxiety, intellectual performance problems etc well before cannabis.

You have to have been a heavy consumer over a long period of time to develop these kinds of problems.

You will also recover after withdrawal, unless as you said it was a dormant schizophrenia.

[integral]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

You have to have been a heavy consumer over a long period of time to develop these kinds of problems.

You will also recover after withdrawal, unless as you said it was a dormant schizophrenia.

How do you know this is true? From my observations it only takes once to change your brain.

You won’t recover, this isn’t about schizophrenia. You’re thinking of this like a black-and-white way.

The effects on your body is a spectrum of possible alterations. It alters your body and for some people it gives them schizophrenia, but everyone’s body is altered, and the issues that pop up are part of a wide net.

It causes years of long-term impairment for many people. It’s not all about schizophrenia.

It can cause learning disabilities, increased anxiety for years, reshaping your personality, just from smoking it once

But people are too unconscious to notice or to attribute it to the weed.

Edited April 17 by integral

[shree]

Weed saved my life when I was heavily depressed and had a high level of anxiety.

 

It gave me a lots of laughter, food tasted good for the first time, I slept well for the first time and it helped me tremendously to go out of my bubble where I lived for my whole life.

 

But yeah, it eventually became an addiction that I needed to get rid of lol

[BlessedLion]

I think it’s nuanced and highly dependent on genetics. I’ve also had personal horrific trips on it. Worse than anything from shrooms, and have friends who have as well. I don’t think I’ll ever touch it again, doesn’t click with me at all. Sorry Mary Jane, you fucked me over too many times

[Jodistrict]

That’s why you treat these substances responsibly as sacred medicines.  Tobacco is a sacred plant to the indigenous.  But it can be used to heal you or give you cancer.  If something is powerful, it goes both ways.   This is why I don’t see it as a positive development that psychedelics are becoming mainstream in a shallow consumerist culture hooked on entertainment.

[Breakingthewall]

Cannabis was very positive for me as a teenager. It allowed me to look inward and free me from my hereditary path, sometimes with very bad trips. Then it became a negative useless addictive thing, and I quit.

I use it occasionally now and it's a positive thing, like a psychedelic that brings clarity.  

Marihuana magnifies your insecurity, breaks down your defenses, and you're left alone facing your social anxiety. No tricks will work. This can plunge you into psychosis or motivate you to align yourself with your authentic self, which isn't affected by marihuana.

Edited April 18 by Breakingthewall

[integral]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Cannabis was very positive for me as a teenager. It allowed me to look inward and free me from my hereditary path, sometimes with very bad trips. Then it became a negative useless addictive thing, and I quit.

I use it occasionally now and it's a positive thing, like a psychedelic that brings clarity.  

Marihuana magnifies your insecurity, breaks down your defenses, and you're left alone facing your social anxiety. No tricks will work. This can plunge you into psychosis or motivate you to align yourself with your authentic self, which isn't affected by marihuana.

It sounds to me like marijuana tortured you enough to help you grow up lol, I don’t see the reason this is necessary, I think LSD or mushrooms or other psychoactive compounds could probably do a better job without the long list of  side effects that could potentially arise, especially in teen brains, which has shown to impact brain development in teens while creating chronic anxiety problems.

You know that common reported effect of weed that a person feels dumb afterwards. For a lot of people that feeling dumb never goes away. It just permanently alters your brain.

When you do this as a teen, you don’t realize that you just dumbed yourself down, during the most important part of your life where you need to get your shit together and succeed

[Breakingthewall]

33 minutes ago, integral said:

sounds to me like marijuana tortured you enough to help you grow up lol, I don’t see the reason this is necessary,

Not just that. The society we live in drags you down a path of falsehood. When you're a teenager, all the messages you receive from every angle are: falsehood. You have to be cool, acceptable, lovable, fuckable. Then you become a mentally retarded person who goes around acting like a clown, self-limiting your emotional system in order to fit into the clown world.

One day, at 14 or 15, you smoke marijuana, and everything becomes twisted, strange, but at the same time magical. You regain the magic you lost when the truth of childhood ended and the falsehood of the adult world began. You also clearly perceive the dissonance between the image you project and reality, your horrible fear of rejection, and this is what makes you border on psychosis.

If you're strong enough, instead of breaking down, you embark on a path of coherence. Since you have been raised in fear since childhood, this path is difficult, but the other option, being a stupid puppet for the rest of your life, is a worse option.

[integral]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Not just that. The society we live in drags you down a path of falsehood. When you're a teenager, all the messages you receive from every angle are: falsehood. You have to be cool, acceptable, lovable, fuckable. Then you become a mentally retarded person who goes around acting like a clown, self-limiting your emotional system in order to fit into the clown world.

One day, at 14 or 15, you smoke marijuana, and everything becomes twisted, strange, but at the same time magical. You regain the magic you lost when the truth of childhood ended and the falsehood of the adult world began. You also clearly perceive the dissonance between the image you project and reality, your horrible fear of rejection, and this is what makes you border on psychosis.

If you're strong enough, instead of breaking down, you embark on a path of coherence. Since you have been raised in fear since childhood, this path is difficult, but the other option, being a stupid puppet for the rest of your life, is a worse option.

You’re describing a very rare experience. Most teenagers have no growth on marijuana when they smoke it at 14 years old. It derailed their life and they lose focus.

At 14 I was solving the hardest chess puzzles I could find, by 15 I was in the gym by 17 I had the body of an athlete, by 18 I was writing software programs, by 19 I was a Chess master, in college I got 100% on every high science and calculus programs, by 20 I had a job as a software developer and I didn’t have a degree yet.

Focus.

I would wake up and visualize everything I wanted to achieve for the whole year, and then I’ll go to bed and visualize everything. I wanted to achieve for next 10 years.

Focus

People who smoke marijuana especially at 14 nearly never dial in Young and pursue life hard. Their mind is now in a fog, they lose direction they lose a vision of a future .They get completely derailed. Lost in self-esteem problems, anxiety problems and dependency on substances

Of course it’s gonna vary widely between people. But we cannot push marijuana onto an entire population because 0.1% of people are going to have benefits smoking at 14.

I Know no-one IRL who smoked marijuana young recreationally, who had a coherent focussed youth.

Edited April 18 by integral

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, integral said:

Know no one who smoked marijuana young, who had a coherent focussed life

The problem with having a focused life is that you're being manipulated without realizing it, through emotional mechanisms you can't sense, and the self steem problems are not being created by weed but showed. For example, in China, marijuana is absolutely prohibited because they want people to be totally focused. This is good for progress and productivity, but it creates very limited individuals, lacking emotional depth. When they're older, depression sets in—true depression, in which life loses all color. I'm not saying that everyone should be a hippie, but some flexibility is good imo 

Btw, I know a guy who's smoked more than 10 joints a day since he was 15 starting in the morning. He works in investments at a bank. He's married, has two daughters, a house, and a €100,000 car. Every mind is different.

Edited April 18 by Breakingthewall

[integral]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The problem with having a focused life is that you're being manipulated without realizing it, through emotional mechanisms you can't sense. For example, in China, marijuana is absolutely prohibited because they want people to be totally focused. This is good for progress and productivity, but it creates very limited individuals, lacking emotional depth. When they're older, depression sets in—true depression, in which life loses all color. I'm not saying that everyone should be a hippie, but some flexibility is good imo 

Btw, I know a guy who's smoked more than 10 joints a day since he was 15 starting in the morning. He works in investments at a bank. He's married, has two daughters, a house, and a €100,000 car. Every mind is different.

It would make sense to experiment with it after a certain point in life just not young. It can help with depression or exploring discovering yourself for self-development purposes. I agree on that part.

It’s true everyone is different, maybe we can agree that the problem is there’s no education in our culture on the substance. Some people don’t have the genetics for it and it will negatively impact their life and some people can handle it without any problems, even benefit them

If we could genetically test and determine for certain in advance, that might be useful.

The current culture is that marijuana literally just makes you relax and it can’t kill you and there’s basically nothing wrong with it and this has nothing to do with the reality of that there is a wide variation of positive and negative effects and you’re gambling.

For some people, they smoke it once, and they have psychosis for the rest of there life.

None of this is communicated in our culture

Edited April 18 by integral

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, integral said:

It would make sense to experiment with it after a certain point in life just not young. He can help with depression or exploring discovering yourself for self-development purposes. I agree on that part.

It’s true everyone is different, maybe we can agree that the problem is there’s no education in our culture on the substance. Some people don’t have the genetics for it and it will negatively impact their life and some people can handle it without any problems even benefit them

If we could genetically test and for certain in advance, that might be useful.

The current culture is that marijuana literally just makes you relax and it can’t kill you and there’s basically nothing wrong with it and this has nothing to do with the reality of that there is a wide variation of positive and negative effects and you’re gambling.

For some people, they smoke it once, and they have psychosis for the rest of your life.

None of this is communicated in our culture

Agree , the effects of marijuana are potentially dangerous and destabilizing, and it's trivialized as a "soft" drug, when it can actually ruin your life. This is something that should be known and repeated ad nauseam: weed is dangerous, and very dangerous, can destroy your life in some cases. 

Likewise, alcohol as a social lubricant is something surprising. It's a substance that literally dulls your mental faculties and has the power to disinhibit you, as we seem to live inhibited lives, so everyone in their free time goes out to drink with their friends, all over the world. Is this negative? What would society be like without alcohol?

Edited April 18 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

@integral  

 I'm almost certain of one thing: when smoking weed puts you into a psychotic state, it's not the weed, it's you. You carry that distortion inside, and weed makes it manifest. Becoming bipolar or schizophrenic is dramatic, but it's not something a drug can do; it's something that would have happened as soon as life had pushed you.

I think weed gives you the opportunity to see that side of yourself again and again and resolve it, if you're determined to do so. I don't know about schizophrenia, but depressive disorders, manic disorders, mild psychosis, can be resolved if your will is to align yourself with yourself, and weed can be a useful tool.

[integral]

@Breakingthewall it’s the culture around these substances that’s corrupt, if the culture was used the substances in specific situations for self development or as a social lubricant then we wouldn’t have this problem of misconceptions and abuse, would be clearly informed

Coffee is the same thing. It’s very powerful drug that’s a performance enhancer. And people just drink it like it’s a beverage unconsciously. Instead, it should be used as a performance enhancer and specific situations, like if you need to perform well on a date or a job interview, you could potentially double your state of consciousness for a short period of time. But if you’re taking coffee every day blindly, you’re just damaging your body.

 

[integral]

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't know about schizophrenia, but depressive disorders, manic disorders, mild psychosis, can be resolved if your will is to align yourself with yourself, and weed can be a useful tool.

That is a very speculative thing to say lmao, weed will not be a useful tool for most psychological problems unless your genetics are good for it, but even then there’s so many things wrong with it, cause it stays in your system for months, creating a long lasting stress on the system. And it can be easily used as a crutch instead of actual growth.

I feel like you’re not speaking from experience when you make this comment, if a person has psychosis there “will” is not gonna help them.

People are not in control of anything, intelligence and sanity is given to you and you are having a free ride, this is not earned.

Edited April 18 by integral

[Breakingthewall]

16 hours ago, integral said:

People are not in control of anything, intelligence and sanity is given to you and you are having a free ride, this is not earned.

16 hours ago, integral said:

 

I don't agree, I saw my cousin, also a close friend, sink into a kind of psychosis. He was diagnosed with bipolar disorder (and, by the way, his first episode was after smoking weed), but it was something more, like an escape from reality. I tried everything I could to get him out of it, but he had no willpower. He didn't want to. My perception was that he went crazy because he wanted to, because he didn't have the balls to face life, to fight. In the end, we lost contact. The last news I heard was that he was an alcoholic. I always had the perception that he wanted to die, that's why he got crazy. 

[integral]

Good luck curing a mental disorder in this epistemic swamp

step one: build a boat out of crocodile carcasses

Edited April 19 by integral

[integral]

Most mental illnesses are all in the body. They’re not all in your head.

This is commonly mixed up all the time because there are issues like low self-esteem and terrible parenting that did contribute to a bad operating system

Mental disorders is not the same as a bad childhood, but they are often conflated 

so you get really bad gaslighting of people telling you it’s all in your head and you need to work harder with willpower

that might be true if your problem is a terrible childhood but it’s not true if you have coeliac disease and you don’t know it causing schizophrenia (and you will go 20 years never figuring it out, and your doctors have absolutely no idea, because they are reciting the industry)

Edited April 19 by integral