Karmadhi

Why is Israel allowed to have nuclear weapons but Iran cannot

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Because that would be like giving a machine gun to a chimp. 


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49 minutes ago, AION said:

Because that would be like giving a machine gun to a chimp. 

Just to be clear, I totally understand why Iran having a nuke is a bad idea

Issue I have is why Israel can have a nuke while Iran cannot$

You can argue that Israel has bombed its neighbors far more than Iran has, has expanded (Lebanon and Syria which are soverign countries) and does have a religious component to its whole society structure (especially these days with the far right being in power).

So, I do not think Iran would be much less mature about its nuke than Israel has been.

Keep in mind Iran is an old civilization with a long history of statehood.

They are not some African tribe.

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46 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Just to be clear, I totally understand why Iran having a nuke is a bad idea

Issue I have is why Israel can have a nuke while Iran cannot$

You can argue that Israel has bombed its neighbors far more than Iran has, has expanded (Lebanon and Syria which are soverign countries) and does have a religious component to its whole society structure (especially these days with the far right being in power).

So, I do not think Iran would be much less mature about its nuke than Israel has been.

Keep in mind Iran is an old civilization with a long history of statehood.

They are not some African tribe.

Israel shouldn’t have nukes. But giving Iran will only make the situation worse. Iran is a rogue state. They always have been ruled by Arabs, Turks and others so they don’t have this governance. There is a big chance of civil war in Iran or total collapse similar to Syria. 


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1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:

Just to be clear, I totally understand why Iran having a nuke is a bad idea

Issue I have is why Israel can have a nuke while Iran cannot$

You can argue that Israel has bombed its neighbors far more than Iran has, has expanded (Lebanon and Syria which are soverign countries) and does have a religious component to its whole society structure (especially these days with the far right being in power).

So, I do not think Iran would be much less mature about its nuke than Israel has been.

Keep in mind Iran is an old civilization with a long history of statehood.

They are not some African tribe.

I mean who says it can or can’t have it.

 

Obviously Israel is the US closest ally and Iran is an enemy so of course the US wouldn’t want them to have a nuke.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, AION said:

Israel shouldn’t have nukes. But giving Iran will only make the situation worse. Iran is a rogue state. They always have been ruled by Arabs, Turks and others so they don’t have this governance. There is a big chance of civil war in Iran or total collapse similar to Syria. 

“Rogue” state just means they don’t do what the US tells them too.

Israel has nukes and the CIA itself predicted a israeli civil war could happen.

Iran proposed to turn the entire middle East into a nuclear weapon free zone and the US blocked it.

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1 hour ago, Raze said:

Iran proposed to turn the entire middle East into a nuclear weapon free zone

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3 minutes ago, AION said:

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It’s a copy of the proposal that worked in Latin America and Africa

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17 minutes ago, Raze said:

It’s a copy of the proposal that worked in Latin America and Africa

I wouldn’t trust Iran with these kind of stuff. They have very aggressive policies in Lebanon and such. No need to legitimize the Farsi gov. 


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7 minutes ago, AION said:

I wouldn’t trust Iran with these kind of stuff. They have very aggressive policies in Lebanon and such. No need to legitimize the Farsi gov. 

The proposal would require agreeing to inspections, when Iran agreed to the US nuclear deal the Us itself admitted they were following it.

Iran doesn’t have aggressive policies in Lebanon, they just fund the largest militia there.

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On 2025/4/17 at 4:22 AM, integration journey said:

Because it will be a shit show for the whole region. 
imagine givin a 4 yr old a real car to drive. That’s what it’s like to give Iran nukes.

How the fuck would you know? Does Iran behave like a 4 year old to you?

I think it is a great idea if Iran had nukes. Israel wouldn't attack its neighbors so recklessly and blatantly.

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6 minutes ago, ted73104 said:

How the fuck would you know? Does Iran behave like a 4 year old to you?

I think it is a great idea if Iran had nukes. Israel wouldn't attack its neighbors so recklessly and blatantly.

Exactly it is a perceived threat that we don't actually know how Iran would behave vs a real threat that we already know how Israel behaves 

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Israel and the US are themselves rogue states. Which nation on earth has dropped not one but two atomic bombs on an already defeated people, and has continued to be at war around the world every day of its existence? One of these nations still exists as settler colonial apartheid state ethnically cleansing the people it occupies today.

These are psychotic nations that shouldn’t have the power they do, due to the abuse of it.

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Because Iran claims that another country, Israel, should be wiped off the map. So, if it had nuclear weapons, it could do so. No other country claims that another country should be wiped out; their weapons are supposedly for defense, not extermination

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7 hours ago, ted73104 said:

Does Iran behave like a 4 year old to you?

Only sponsors terrorism on totally innocent people all over the world.


🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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Posted (edited)

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Because Iran claims that another country, Israel, should be wiped off the map. So, if it had nuclear weapons, it could do so. No other country claims that another country should be wiped out; their weapons are supposedly for defense, not extermination

Iran made threats against Israel to wipe them off the map. You mean like this photo?

Didn't Israel wipe Palestine off the map? Maybe I dreamt that up

 

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3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Because Iran claims that another country, Israel, should be wiped off the map. So, if it had nuclear weapons, it could do so. No other country claims that another country should be wiped out; their weapons are supposedly for defense, not extermination

Israel and the US have called for toppling Iran multiple times.

Iran also said they are against going to war with Israel. The idea they’d just start a nuclear war is ridiculous.

The only one wiping a country off the map is israel doing it to Palestine.  

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10 hours ago, ted73104 said:

How the fuck would you know? Does Iran behave like a 4 year old to you?

I think it is a great idea if Iran had nukes. Israel wouldn't attack its neighbors so recklessly and blatantly.

Dude, Iran can get fucked. They destroyed my county Syria. The Iranian regime can kiss my ass. Yes they behaved like 4 yr olds when they massacred Syrian towns and cities just because they were Sunni and against the Syrian regime. Fuck IRAN now and forever. 

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