Amphetamines + Ketamine: Trip Report

[Davino]

Caution: This blend is potentially dangerous. I'm just sharing my personal experience.

 

I snorted Amphetamines to begin with, a medium-low dose of 20 mg. It was my first time, and I was surprised to feel the state of consciousness so familiar; I had already accessed it via meditation. I had a clear mind, a focused sense of perception and concentration, and a subtle relaxation. My body reacted well to the chemical; a bit of heart pumping in the coming up, but it was stabilized quickly, and my constants were fine throughout the experience. It felt like I had done a particularly good concentration-hour-long meditation session. The only difference was that the stability of the state of consciousness was baseline maintained and needed not work to get or susstain as in meditation. I was a bit disappointed; I expected more from the substance, given its reputation, but I got nice insights and mystical experiences from it.

First, I realized profoundly the beauty of the present moment. Many times we go on a constant search for another state other than what we are. I was like a rat constantly chasing for more instead of just appreciating life for what it is. I could just sit on my sofa, breathe and be happy. By virtue of how beautiful reality is. One might think when I get X or do Y, then I'll be  really  fulfilled but this is not it; surely I can manipulate this moment to be better than it is, this is a trap. It really is, there's a point where you can appreciate reality exactly as it is, then this present field of experience becomes divine.

In this line, I deconstructed the wanting more unsatisfied of the now subconscious parasite of my mind. I realized how common in my psychedelic excursions, I had this sense of wanting more, realizing more and getting to that X I know is the real gold, which is totally fine but not at the expense of forgetting the immense beauty and love for the now: that I realized. "Now" is more than enough, now is perfect, and when you get to that X, a core aspect of it is the satisfaction and love for the here-now you get, you fall in love with the configuration of existence at that particular moment and hence with existence itself. This is profound, contemplate it, feel the now, be in the now.

 

I proceeded to snort 40 mg of Ketamine, now the experience got fascinating. I felt how the gates in my brain and consciousness started to open and flow, like cascades of fresh water never interconnected in such a way. My right upper brain part was specially grateful; finally, my brain was awakened in a way never before experienced. Alert yet profoundly calm. It was on my to-do list before death to try an upper and a downer at the same time, and so it happened. The experience morphed into more mystical realms. I already had visuals on the first substance, they were symmetrical, sporadic, not lucid, spontaneous, beautiful but short-lived. Ketamine added a new dimension to my minds' ability. I pictured a can of paint, then two more came forming a triangle, then different colored-shaped cans came in forming a billiard shape, and finally they all mingled in a beautiful circular fashion.

At this point I put on some healing psychedelic music and worked through energetic patterns in my body, infusing myself with love, dissolving the knots and pulling the string to make my inner space naturally open and comfortable. It is quite deep how much we carry in our physicality, not only from ourselves but our parents, family-lineage and close ones, like a virus spreads, so does energy; one must clean the vessel out of self-love. This is an important need one must perform.

After the intense energetic work, I felt quite at ease and was carried away by the soft waves of sleep.

[Leo Gura]

You mean meth??

[The Crocodile]

Meth makes anal feel sooo good, which is why it's often used to turn boys gay and get them hooked on it. It increases the sensitivity of the nerves SOOOOOO much and makes you way more suggestible to that.

[LambdaDelta]

What kind of amphetamine, the base? Ketamine is best enjoyed with methylenedioxymethamphetamine. 

It's inadvisable to snort stuff. If you do, keep it below 30mg at a time, even then without a wash not a particularly good idea. 

Seems you peeked the visualization ability a little bit, there's a lot more where that came from. Big potential and lots of unknowns.

Lastly, real men's speedballs are made of coke + Afghan #3 

Edited April 16 by LambdaDelta

[integration journey]

1 hour ago, The Crocodile said:

Meth makes anal feel sooo good, which is why it's often used to turn boys gay and get them hooked on it. It increases the sensitivity of the nerves SOOOOOO much and makes you way more suggestible to that.

WTF, how do you even know that. 🤣

Edited April 16 by integration journey

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You mean meth??

High quality speed

[Davino]

This was just a check box to have the experience. It had been sitting in my box for three years and I had no interest in it. I just wanted to try it once.

[Davino]

1 hour ago, LambdaDelta said:

Seems you peeked the visualization ability a little bit, there's a lot more where that came from. Big potential and lots of unknowns.

I wasn't expecting that, it was a surprise. Not like LSD which are on all the time but there were inspiration moments with great visuals.

[LambdaDelta]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

I wasn't expecting that, it was a surprise. Not like LSD which are on all the time but there were inspiration moments with great visuals.

There's a spectrum of visuals if you will, at one end there's the classic psychedelic ones, fractal geometry and such, and opposite that are delirium visuals. Ketamine and other dissos alone are closer to the psychedelic side, what I like to call void symbols. What you just did pretty much sits right in the middle. MDMA with Pregabalin or a similar combo is delirium with a pinch of psychedelia, and lastly the pure delirium you get from antihistamines/anticholinergics. These are interestingly enough much more grounded in our baseline reality and as such could be more practically useful if that power can be harnessed in a controllable manner. For instance to achieve a Tesla like visualization ability to design devices or run through chemical reactions. It's no easy task and carries significant risk, but I got some preliminary success nonetheless, stumbling on it through accident. Trouble with psychedelics is it's too abstract, despite more profundity. By the time you've translated the message from the language of gods and integrated it, opportunity for instantaneous creation has passed. Either that or you're too deep into God consciousness to even care. But there exist middle ground states, one only needs to find the right key. 

[Davino]

@LambdaDelta Interesting, surely it felt more grounded.

Although for me towards the second hour of an LSD trip at night, visuals get insanely gorgeous. After the third hour classic visuals again, but there's a window in the experience at begining where it's so visually clear for me.

[LambdaDelta]

28 minutes ago, Davino said:

@LambdaDelta Interesting, surely it felt more grounded.

Although for me towards the second hour of an LSD trip at night, visuals get insanely gorgeous. After the third hour classic visuals again, but there's a window in the experience at begining where it's so visually clear for me.

Still, it's less likely to make scientific discoveries on LSD than it would be in controlled delirium. Although...

 

 

[The Crocodile]

48 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

For instance to achieve a Tesla like visualization ability to design devices or run through chemical reactions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/1jaatz4/using_tensegrity_for_engineering/

All of this is done without drugs. Daniel there has made millions of dollars before from computer chip designs he saw floating in the air.

[LambdaDelta]

2 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/1jaatz4/using_tensegrity_for_engineering/

All of this is done without drugs. Daniel there has made millions of dollars before from computer chip designs he saw floating in the air.

That Daniel and Tesla could do it without drugs doesn't mean you and I can. Maybe you can, I don't know. Others just naturally see ghosts and whatnot. But those are rare talents. 

[The Crocodile]

9 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

That Daniel and Tesla could do it without drugs doesn't mean you and I can. Maybe you can, I don't know. Others just naturally see ghosts and whatnot. But those are rare talents. 

Yes, Daniel and I and dozens of other people do lots of weird stuff every night. I suspect everybody can do it, they just don't have the techniques for it, or if they heard of the techniques they wouldn't put that much effort in.

Most normal forms of meditation like vipassana will basically be of no help at all, and ordinary daydreaming too is not the same.

 

There was a brugmansia tree that grew in my yard and I made tea from it, and had a delirious vision of me murdering a fat man in the shower, and then my visual field turned red.

If you put enough work in you could see that type of stuff sober, and well, it wouldn't be delirious but clean.

3 hours ago, integration journey said:

WTF, how do you even know that. 🤣

How do you think I know that honey.

[LambdaDelta]

7 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

Yes, Daniel and I and dozens of other people do lots of weird stuff every night

So do I, but of a different kind. There's no denying some things are only possible sober, and others 'under the influence'. It needn't be an even balance either, one could lean into one or ther other more or less heavily when the time is right. People have been over this with you, just do whatever works. Everybody's out here sharing experiences and opinions, that's all this is, there ain't no prescriptions.

Don't assume delirium must be chaotic like it usually is, be open to the possibility it doesn't have to be this way. That would be a novel technique, currently it's more likely to be a flop, but that's the scientific method for you. 'Clean' is still an altered state relative to your regular one where you post on forums and do other survival stuff. All depends on the definitions you use. In the end it's all the same consciousness acting on itself. 

[The Crocodile]

@LambdaDelta The problem is you can't take datura everyday. You can, it would be an interesting experience and be an interesting "arch" in your life where you do many, many other things, though it would not necessarily be very good.

Being in an altered state, all the time, in control of it, without damaging the body at all is its own thing.

[Lynx]

@The Crocodile It's good to see people from this place, I've tried the techniques laid out in the sub for years and I can say it definitely works to some extend but this requires so much effort that I had to let down and find my own way.. 
The concept laid out are very usefull to understand states of consciousness accurately though, especially the Assemblage Point where sorcerers are able to change state of consiousness at will without the aid of an external substance.

Problem is this path felt kinda dark for me, dealing with inorganic beings is not the kind of energy I prefer so I had to find another path with more light

[LambdaDelta]

8 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

@LambdaDelta The problem is you can't take datura everyday. You can, it would be an interesting experience and be an interesting "arch" in your life where you do many, many other things, though it would not necessarily be very good.

Being in an altered state, all the time, in control of it, without damaging the body at all is its own thing.

Course you wouldn't want that. Even as an experiment that wouldn't end well, and that right soon. Deliriants don't end at datura and similar plants, just as an example though all you'd want from datura is the scopolamine, rest is useless poison, that already reduces negative effects significantly. Same thing with Salvia, you don't need the plant gunk, only Salvinorin A. The vast majority of people do psychedelics very unconsciously in different ways. Changing that to combine it with hard science understanding behind how those things work is where the real good things can happen. Which is its own form of effort, I spend dozens of hours researching all that shit and experimenting with it in the lab.

Nor is everyday or any kind of regularity even necessary, a real breakthrough will leave you with material to work with for a while. I'd consider such an altered state that one can sustain indefinitely as more of a really elevated state that becomes the new baseline than peak consciousness states. Not talking about any substances here, just good old hardcore meditation. At the end of the day one has to at least pause once every now and then to perform basic bodily functions, else their state wouldn't persist for very long. Even such minor distractions already distort the state. 

[The Crocodile]

16 minutes ago, Lynx said:

Problem is this path felt kinda dark for me, dealing with inorganic beings is not the kind of energy I prefer so I had to find another path with more light

Yes it is dark.

Edited Wednesday at 09:08 PM by The Crocodile

[Davino]

I've been reflecting more and amphetamines really felt like the first Jhanas. Its similarities are surprising.